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Self nomination another discography FLC. Comments are appreciated. No-Bullet (TalkContribs) 19:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't make sortable columns because none of the other featured discographies have them =) No-Bullet (TalkContribs) 19:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So? I tried to find what their highest charting song was, but it was difficult because I had to search through the table. Sortability would make it easier. -- Scorpion0422 00:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, not a single FL discog does this. So, to be fair to the nominator, I think this would be a topic better discussed at WP:DISCOG, since it would be kind of a discography-wide proposal/change/discussion type thing. Drewcifer (talk) 00:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. Good start, but alot of finer details still need to be ironed out. A few examples:
  • A few of the sections are bullet-point lists, where tables are generally preferred. But, I would argue that the Remasters section is most appropriate as it is now.
OK, I'll make a table for the videography later. I think the Box Sets section will be more difficult to read in a table. What do you think?
Done.
I could go either way. Whatever you think is best.
OK, it's fixed now.
  • The references need to be cleaned up a bit. Take a look at nearly any FL discog to see how to format the actual references section, with general and specific references being seperate. Also, the genreal references need to provide full attribution, just like the specific ones.
Done.
Still kind of messy, namely the two general references.
Fixed, using the cite web template.
  • The year column is bigger than it needs to be. In general, I recommend not using width percentages, because you can't guarantee how it's going to look on various monitors. I'd definitely recommend set pixel widths (33px usually does the trick for the year column).
Done.
The reason I suggested 33px is because that's all a 4 digit number needs. More then that, and there's a bunch of space off to one side. This is partly due to the in-line citation in the last upcoming studio album, which should be in the album details column, not the year. I stil recommend 33px, as well as putting |align="center"| for each year cell. Drewcifer (talk) 00:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.
Resolved stuff from Drewcifer
  • Also some of the in-line citations need to be cleaned up. Some say "Allmusic" some say "AllMusic".
Fixed.
  • Citations #3 is formatted oddly and the link is broken.
Fixed.
  • I would also recommend merging consecutive identical rows in the year and album column.
Done.
  • The Soundtrack contributions section seems unnecessary. If I understand it correctly, these three songs weren't created original for the soundtracks, but were just included for one reason or another, right?
I think "Big Gun" was made for the Last Action Hero movie. The other two songs weren't.
Fixed.
  • I feel like the tables should be re-arranged a bit, to include release date and label in the same cell as the album title. The majority of FL discogs are formatted this way.
Done.
  • What is a "variant album"? I feel like this should be reworded.
Done.
  • "and at least 6 box sets" don't you know exactly how many?
Fixed.
  • Why is "Greatest hits" italicized?
LOL, fixed.
  • "greatest hits type packages, unlike many other bands." seems unencyclopedic.
I reworded and sourced that.
  • "As Who Made Who" very confusing way to start a sentence.
...and that.
  • "High Voltage with vocalist Bon Scott, bassist Mark Evans (later replaced by Cliff Williams) and drummer Phil Rudd" The way this sentence works, you describe the band's lineup through the contributors to High Voltage. But then you also try to mention that Cliff Williams was a later member, but obviously unrelated to High Voltage. I don't think you can both ways, at least as the sentence is worded right now. It is very awkward.
Fixed.
  • "with whom AC/DC will release their best selling album" wrong tense.
Fixed, I think.
  • "On February 2003 (see 2003 in music)" the stuff in parenthesis is unnecessary.
Removed.
  • Why is AC/DC repeatedly wikilinked in the article? Only once is necessary.
Done.
  • UK should be spelled out the first time it's mentioned.
Done.
Fixed. No-Bullet (TalkContribs) 00:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll finish with the tables and the rest of the references later. No-Bullet (TalkContribs) 03:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. No-Bullet (TalkContribs) 17:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • The sections could do with being rearranged to something like:
1 Albums
1.1 Remasters
1.2 Boxsets
2 Singles
3 Videography
4 Soundtrack contributions
5 References
6 Further Reading
7 EL
Done.
  • Do not wikilink the bold title in the lead, per Bold title
Fixed.
  • "Their last album to date, Stiff Upper Lip was released in 2000, and a new album was announced in 2005[3] and confirmed in 2008.[4]" Reads better when a full stop is used instead of a comma-and-an-and after "2000". Also, all references should follow punctuation, and reference 3 doesn't
Fixed.
  • Why is the Australian chart position the last one, when it's an Australian band?
Fixed.
Fixed.
  • Alphabetise the other countries' chart postitions columns
Fixed.
  • No chart positions for New Zealand, Canada, Japan, or any other country?
So?
So is that right? Seems odd for a big group like ACDC, especially in NZ, their neighbouring country. -- αŁʰƏЩ @ 01:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Other FL discogs include music videos in/as the videography, and list commercially available videos and DVDs under a VHS and DVD section
AC/DC released a lot of music videos, I won't be able to source them or even list them. No-Bullet (TalkContribs) 00:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- αŁʰƏЩ @ 02:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
  • Numbers below ten should be written in text.
Within a context or a list, style should be consistent (either 5 cats and 32 dogs or five cats and thirty-two dogs, not five cats and 32 dogs). WP:DATE#Numbers
  • "the band have released 16 studio albums, plus 4 albums issued in Australia" - yuck - the "plus" is confusing, and also, the infobox says 17 studio albums...
The band have released 16 studio albums. There's one studio album confirmed to be released later this year. Fixed the "plus" thing.
  • You should link AC/DC in the lead (obviously not in the bold lead in but as soon as possible afterwards).
Fixed.
  • "released over the years" - too familiar for me - write encyclopaedically.
Fixed.
  • "are about as close as" ditto. Plus this is a little WP:OR for my taste.
That statement is referenced.
  • "internatioal" typo.
Fixed.
  • Image caption is a fragment and thus doesn't require a full stop.
Fixed.
  • Shouldn't the album titles in the table be bold as well as italic?
Fixed.
  • " weren't re-released " - were not. Avoid contractions.
Fixed.
  • Be consistent with WP:DATE linking.
Fixed.
  • What does (Aus.) mean?
Fixed. No-Bullet (TalkContribs) 13:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's enough from me. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]