Talk:Metallica (album)

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The picture of the album cover here is of questionable value. At the very least it should have a caption under it (which I will do when I find out how...) Rholton

Questionable? That the album cover. The name is supposed to be worn.24.144.137.244 02:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Their first commercial success? If you don't count multi-platinum albums as "success" then I don't know what is. --malathion ^talk 00:13, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The assumption that METALLICA has ever cared about "commercial success" is something I can only expect from a motley crue fan.

Genre

Is it really right to call this album 'Thrash Metal'? I mean, the main criticism from 'alienated' fans is that this album deviated from Metallica's normal thrash style, is it not? The article even says 'Gone, for the most part, were the faster staccato riffs during verses and throaty screaming found on the first four albums; the overall speed and complexity of the music were greatly reduced. The Black Album presented a more radio-friendly, commercially accessible Metallica, evidenced by the ballad "Nothing Else Matters"'. Unclejimbo827 12:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Groove Metal?

I've noticed some musical similarities between this album and the groove metal scene that would develop soon after. Does anyone think that The Black Album could possibly be one of the first groove metal albums? With all the riffs that meld into one another and the slightly more juvenile lyrics (just an opinion), this album does seem to be a primitive groove metal album, except for Hetfield's vocals, which are nothing like most groove songs. Just tell me if I'm right or wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.95.183 (talk) 01:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs work

Anyone notice that this article is just one POV statement right after another. I cleaned it some but it needs work. You can see where the initial 'information page' started...and almost track through where little hints of POV statements have weaseled in to make it go from an encyclopedia article to sounding like a conversation between Wayne and Garth. The 'It's metal man!'-'No it ain't Dude!' edits are better left for a teen chat room. And trying to decide what 'metal' is within the confines of a single album description is pointless. Anyone else want to clean the fluff out of it?...it needs a real make-over. Anger22 11:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC) djk[reply]

Cover

The cover picture isn't the right one. Actually, someone added the (almost) right one, but it was reverted. The only mistake by that pic was the fact that it was too contrasted. Could someone add the real album cover, please? --217.84.142.114 15:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is the the album cover.24.144.137.244 02:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the image has very bad quality.. --80.74.110.170 11:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beginning

Isn't it a bit silly to start the article with "controversy"? --Big gun 18:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Defacing

Someone has defaced the page with 'metallica rules' - also i notice on a coupel of other metallica linked pages that there have been swear words put in..maybe someone can check them out?

But METALLICA does rule !..!24.144.137.244 02:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced

Much of this article is unsourced and that is problematic. This paragraph, however, has so many problems that I have removed it until somebody provides sources:

The Black Album stands as a dividing point for Metallica fans. Its' supporters claim that it is still a "metal" album, while its critics describe it as the beginning of the end for Metallica's greatness. Songs such as "Holier Than Thou", "Through The Never", and "The Struggle Within" show Metallica still practiced elements of thrash, while detractors point to the ballads "Nothing Else Matters" and "The Unforgiven" as signs that Metallica was more interested in commercial gain than catering exclusively to their thrash metal fan base.

If someone can provide sources, please do so. Thanks. Wikipediarul e s 2221 02:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The Black Album"

I could be completely wrong here, but I was under the impression that subtitling this album as "The Black Album" was a sort of tongue in cheek nod to the movie "This is Spinal Tap" ... in which the band members talk about releasing an album with a completely black cover - "... like a black mirror." Maybe this is a connection that only I have made.

Has anyone found any evidence to support this theory? ThreeKings

Yeah, there's a part in A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica where James and Lars are looking at the finished cover artwork. Lars holds it up and goes, "Spinal Tap lives," and then James says, "The answer is 'none more black.'" --jh51681 (talk) 00:46, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Album sales:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080103/20080103006104.html?.v=1

It's now up to 15,077,000 so please someone update it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.205.43.222 (talk) 00:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just bought a copy so now it's 15,077,001. 206.169.113.197 (talk) 21:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hammet playing rhythm on Nothing Else Matters

Is it really true that Kirk Hammet plays rhythm-guitar on Nothing Else Matters? I know that the solo is Hetfields, but that doesn't automatically make Hammet be rhythm-guitar player for that song. It was my understanding that Hetfield plays all guitar on the song. This is confirmed by the wikipedia-page on "Nothing Else Matters". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.231.166.20 (talk) 11:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From what I understand (I think they mentioned this in a video - possibly Year and a Half..) that Kirk does not play on NEM at all, everything is James. Skeletor2112 (talk) 12:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]