Talk:Hanbali school

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starting from "Al-Khallal" the text should be moved to individal pages.

In the list of scholars Ibn-taymiyyh is mentioned twice - 'King of Hearts81

It appears that in addition to ibn Taymiyyah, ibn Jawzi is also mentioned twice. I think someone should go down the list and make sure there aren't any more repeats...a change in formatting wouldn't hurt either, as it's hard on the eyes the way it is now. I can do it when I have the free time, though it would be nice if someone else could handle that. MezzoMezzo 17:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic Perspective

This article reads very POV, and furthermore it reads POV from a terrorist perspective. --The Lizard Wizard 02:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC) All muslims don't view the world from a terrorist POV.[reply]

Putting aside the matter of terrorism, in any case this is an eulogy, not an article. Tagged as NPOV. -- 212.63.43.180 10:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is an article other than the examination of various POV? The labelling as a POV should'nt be used in times of controversy(terrorism and islam), or when an article is problematic to some, it becomes a form of "veto" against a point of view. Only the methodology used by hanbalism should be this "thouroughly" examined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.89.14.78 (talk) 20:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is very problematic to say 3% or 5% of muslims are followers of hanbalism, and would like to see reliable references regarding these figures. I would like to note that there is a difference between the school of thought adopted by a state and that followed by individuals within that state. The relation between the two is somewhat complex, as a citizen is not obliged to follow the state's school of thought. But it is undoubted that hanbalism is the fastest growing school of thought with the muslim world.

this article, especially the section on doctrine, has been butchered by some Salafis/Wahhabis... 69.113.7.9 13:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My 2cents RE: POV

Clearly it is someone determined to prove a point that has written this article. The article reads too much like a Brochure for the Hanbali Madhab. Perhaps the author feels defensive of the Hanbali Madhab in this day and age of Islam-phobia.... but that is no excuse for language that so obviously carries a POV. I agree that the POV tag should stay on the article until someone can come along and fix the article. Ryan Albrey (talk) 03:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This article is shockingly biased, and probably longer than it needs to be. I'd recommend a complete re-write. 131.111.220.6 (talk) 03:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Practical Day to Day Differences

I would be most interested to know the practical day to day differences between this Madh'hab and others of the Sunni tradition. For instance, it is suggested towards the end of the article but not clearly stated that, followers of the Hanbali Madh'hab do not believe that Muslims should play board games like Chess or musical instruments. Is this the case? I think a section on the difference between Hambali followers and the wider Sunni community as it affects modern day Muslims on a day to day basis would be an important addition to this article. Ryan Albrey (talk) 03:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Big time POV problems...and other problems...

I do not believe the map is completely accurate and it looks like someone drew it in Windows Paint. It shows Egypt as majority Hanafi which is not true. There is a sizable population of Hanafis in Egypt due in large part to the Ottomans. However, the majority is Shafi`i. It also shows Sudan as Shafi`i which is incorrect. Sudan is majority Maliki. There are many other problems with the map. Please remove the image from this Wiki entry. It is erroneous.

This Wiki entry also ignores the significant Hanbali populations in al-Sham (Palestine, Jordan, and Syria) and presents Saudi Arabia as the only Hanbali bastion. I don't want to assume, but is this a slap at the Syrian Hanbalis whom the Salafis feel are too Ash`ari influenced?

The Hanbali madhhab was far from "extinction" and did not require Muhammad ibn `Abdi-l Wahhab to save them. Regardless of whether or not one agrees with the Creed of Muhammad ibn `Abdi-l Wahhab, to assert that the Hanbali madhhab would have died without him is completely fallacious. Many of the Hanbali scholars of Syria, while influenced by Muhammad ibn `Abdi-l Wahhab and admiring him greatly, would not have ceased to exist as his movement had little impact on the Arab world outside of Egypt (Muhammad `Ali Pasha's war against them from there) and the Arabian Peninsula.

Overall, the article is clearly written from the Salafi/Wahhabi perspective. The Salafi perspective should certainly be known and documented in this Wiki entry as they are, indeed, a school within the Hanbali school of thought, but to make the entire Wiki entry from their perspective only is not right. That's like the Wiki entry on Sunnism being written from the Sufi perspective only. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiblizaman (talk • contribs) 21:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]