Talk:List of Negima! Magister Negi Magi characters

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For earlier discussions prior to pages being split, see Talk:Characters of Negima (1-15)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED - although there's no discussion below, it seems like a perfectly reasonable move request. -GTBacchus^(talk) 00:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Characters of Negima (other characters) → Characters of Negima – There isn't currently a central characters page, have modified this page for the purpose but cannot move as destination exists as a redirect Shiroi Hane 18:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Anya

Just for reference, the third official "Negipa" fanbook romanizes her name as "Annya". Shiroi Hane 08:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kanka

Actually, Takahata's fighting style is called Kankahou in its entirety. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.184.234.201 (talk) 10:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Kuneru Sanders OFFICIAL romanization

As early as volume 12 of the Japanese manga raw, we can clearly see that Akamatsu's official romanization of Albireo Imma's name is Kuneru Sanders around page 170. This is again repeated in Negima! volume 13's first chapter in a small computer screen.

It may be the correct official translation but it's quite obviously referring to Colonel Sanders of KFC. On page 4 of chapter 163 there's even a picture of Colonel Sanders and Eva goes on to say he probably picked the name after liking the chicken. Kuneru Sanders is technically correct but its a little confusing. 204.13.78.146 21:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I made it so that its just linking to the Colonel now, without the "mistranslated" part. I reworded the trivia section so that it should now just talk about the various spellings. Or you could just remove it, if you like. SAMAS 01:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's the OFFICIAL romanization, not translation. Kuneru Sanders is not technically correct, since it IS correct. Why? Because it is a parody of Colonel Sanders. And as a parody, it is not meant to be translated as such, but it is meant to give out the same meaning. That is what a parody is, thus the joke by Asakura Kazumi, "who does he think he's fooling with that name?". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.27.108.147 (talk) 13:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Then use "Kunel" which is what Del-Ray used. That spelling is more eye-tolerable than "Kuneru". 75.57.164.192 16:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which spelling is tolerable is a matter of opinion. If Akamatsu (who created Negima, not Del-Ray, who only localizes it for North America) wrote the guy's name as "Kuneru" twice with no other variations, then that's how it should be here. It's like insisting that Rei Hino's name be written "Raye" because the name DiC gave her is prettier looking. One is right, the other is opinion. --Billdorr 22:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, Kuneru or Kunel both refer to "Colonel", as the ORIGINAL name is "Colonel Sanders". Point is, this is all opinion. Funny how this is already mentioned on this thread. KyuuA4 15:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, it is rather common to dispute spelling from Japanese to English - particularly when a "Japanese" name is inspired by something in English. The real irony - this tendency to go with the "official romanization" does not seem to be consistent as "Albireo" should remain as "Arubireo". KyuuA4 15:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, the Negipa! Official Fan Book vol. 9 spells his name "Kuunel Sanders". Shiroi Hane 23:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

VA suggestion

I suggest that the Voice Actor information be given a separate section where they can be put in. It makes the biographies less cluttered and allows for easier modification if any more Negima! spinoffs are produced.

Donet McGuiness

Question- Where does it say that Donet McGuiness is Fate's mother? Until we find out that it was true or not, I was thinking that we shouldn't post that as fact, and I edited it to reflect that, but someone seemed to change it back. I guess what I am trying to ask for is a source to this.Jopchan121 09:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's only one possible source: Volume 174 of the manga. But what translation I've seen of it only says that she was helping Yuna's father research him.

If you look carefully at the page where Negi explain the important of "Partners" to Asuna in chapter 15 volume 2, you can find Donet McGuiness standing behind The Magus. This might be a implication that she is Magus's Ministra Magi.

124.120.104.25 10:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Having read a translation of volume 174, I have removed all claims of a relationship between Donet and Fate. Please do not reinstate them without definitive proof. SAMAS 01:24, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To elaborate:

In volume 6, Evangeline mentions something "not human" about Fate, and suggests that he might be an artificial construct. In the translation seen so far of chapter 174, where Donet appears, there is no mention of any relationship between herself and Fate. She's only shown to be investigating him, primarily whether he, or whoever was behind him and Wilhelm, was also involved in Chao's actions.

Now, it's been claimed in the history section that the kanji for "son" is used by Donet. But I think, especially in light of the translation, to see some better evidence of their relationship, at least until the official translation comes out, because at the moment, the evidence seems to point against it. So let's not turn this into an edit war, okay? SAMAS 10:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't Donet McGuiness be placed in Welsh Characters section? 1. She is mentioned coming from England 2. She was shown before in an earlier chapter with the Magus in Negi's explaination of ministras. ReddyRedWolf

Mei

I've removed the supposed flaws in the theory that Mei is the same Mei from Love Hina. The third is unclear, all three can be argued, and no sources were cited. First, there is speculation that Kanako Urashima is a witch of some kind, considering that her black cat can fly and talk. Second, hair color difference is not a valid argument, considering how hair color seems to differ between manga and anime adaptations frequently, especially with Akamatsu's work. And finally, Love Hina takes place in 2001, Negima in 2003, and the Love Hina Epilogue in 2005. Judging from these dates, I don't see how the age appearances of Mei in Love Hina and that of Mei in Negima are contradictory. Official sources for the ages of both characters would be necessary to confirm or deny the possibility of them being the same person. Even then, we won't know for certain until Akamatsu verifies that they are one in the same, but since there is little to back up these "flaws", I think they can be left out. TwilightxPrince 18:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Fate

Wasn't it stated that Albireo, meaning his astral form, could only leave the library during the festival? If that is the case, then when it is stated that Al is one of the only defenders left, doesn't that negate him as a defender since the world tree is no longer active? And since Mana and Takahata left as well, doesn't that bring the main defenders down to the Headmaster and Eva along with the other magic teachers?(ShadowMagus316 10:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Chamo Article

considering that he's got a space longer than Takahata, Anya, Fate, Albireo, Eishun and Nagi (who got his own page anyway), I think that Chamo is more deserving of a page than most. Any thoughts? WickedKnightAlbel (talk) 17:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kagetarou of Bosporos

thats the name of that guy who attacked Negi in chapter 198 right,do you think he should be added to the magic world characters?(Allen Walker 18:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC))[reply]

no real subject

sometimes i'm suprised by how devoted some people are, there is even the seat plan