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I found a bunch of cool images and listed them at commons:Talk:Convicts, so if anyone wants to upload them to commons, go right ahead! As this article grows longer we can add more to this one.

Seeing as Category:Convictism in Australia has quite a few pages on ships, we should probably include some ships here too. pfctdayelise 02:25, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I've created Wikisource:Category:Convictism in Australia but at the moment it contains only subcategory Wikisource:Category:Convictism in Western Australia. If anyone has any primary sources on convictism, you know what to do. Drew (Snottygobble) | Talk 03:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mention coud be made here of the "Convict Stain" attitude of Most australians in the late 19th early 20th century, with familys hiding a convict past and a wish to rid Australia of the physical evidence of convictim. For instance the decline of Port Arthur.Ghostieguide 03:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about numbers of convicts?

I think I remember reading in "The Fatal Shore" by Robert Hugh that only about 160,000 people were transported to Australia during the 80(?) years of transportation. This might be related to contrast popular belief that most Australians are descendents of hard-core criminals, which is as far from the truth as is possible. I lost my copy of The Fatal Shore so it's a bit complicated for me to verify this number.

  • In those days many people had large families. There are three or four million people in Australia today who have at least one "convict" ancestor. Of course everybody ( unless their families are inbred ), have 64 great-great-great-great-grandparents, so having one or two of those 64 ancestors being a convict does not necessarily imply a criminal disposition. Eregli bob (talk) 09:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Overhaul

I have given the article a substantial overhaul, but some areas could still be expanded such as the legacy section. Bobby1011 22:00, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice work, an interesting and well written article, Can you please cite more sources and refs for fact checking. Ghostieguide 23:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bush Ranger Link

Links to page on GW Bush III financial supporters. Though a correct explanation the wrong context in this case.

Inappropriate title

Where did this word "convictism" come from? No-one, I emphasise N0-ONE, in Australia uses this word. Surely an article written about the transport of convicts to Australia should be called "Convict Transportation to Australia"?

I don't know how to go about changing a title, so could some one who does please correct this glaring anomaly.

--Mikeh 12:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why not simply "Convicts in Australia"? Kransky (talk) 10:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Convictism is not a word

Who made up this word ? Eregli bob (talk) 09:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I had wondered on that also but it is in the dictionary.

Con´vict`ism : n. 1. The policy or practice of transporting convicts to penal settlements. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Convictism Boylo (talk) 23:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • I have never heard of that word or that dictionary . Is it a legitimate English language dictionary or a joke. When writing about the "system" of transporting convicts from Europe to Australia, the terminology always used is "transportation" or "convict transportation". Eregli bob (talk) 08:52, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish national test

Hello, I just wanted to tell you that a part of this article was in todays national test in English, preformed at all gymnasiums in Sweden. The source was cited as en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convictism_in_Australia with a little remark that stated that all the facts had been checked against the corresponding sources. Obviously somebody at The Swedish National Agency for Education found this article to be reading material! Bluray (talk) 13:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]