User talk:Rgcroc

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I've read through the (very long!) explanation you've given me: thanks for taking the time. I can see you want to help improve this page. For my own part, yes it's totally true that I don't know a huge amount about the union busting business in the States, or the reputation that Mr Burke has built up there. My objections to your changes were a bit more simple though. I can see you're involved in the business and know what you're talking about. But it is not up to you to delete well sourced material. Let me repeat that: it is not up to you to delete well sourced material.

There are two issues here as I see it: first you're trying to change the wording of the first section, making it a bit more flowery and with more z's. I'm not even going to start on that. For one thing, it's just not that important.

Second you want to alter the list of jobs TBG has been involved in. This last bit is fine by me: if you have some information which you feel is accurate, then by all means put it in. The problem is that you say, you've checked a few things out and you think there's a conflict. The right approach in these situations, I think, is to put up the information you have and say in the article that there is a conflict. I think that in this business especially, there are always going to be conflicting interpretations. If I come to Wikipedia and want to read about the Burke Group, then it's useful to know that there is a dispute, and read that in the article. But if John Logan (or a newspaper or anyone) has written something, and there's a source for it, then it isn't up to you to just delete it, and say it was wrong, because you checked I'm afraid. I'm sure that's really annoying, especially if you're right and the reference is wrong: but it has to be so, and I'm sure you can agree on that. And you've got to put up your own references for your own conflicting interpretations. Also, you can use this tool if you think something is unreferenced - ^{[citation needed]} - and this will point out to readers that something's dodgy.

p.s. If you know more about other companies, which you obviously do, please go ahead and put up pages for them! This is all about growing knowledge. :) Wikidea 10:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]