Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Wolfenberger

David Wolfenberger

nn artist who fails WP:MUSIC. Prod removed by IP. A Google search gets the artist's home page, his MySpace, and Wikipedia in that order, followed by a bunch of mp3 download pages. Allmusic has almost nothing on him. No other RS hits - altcountry.nl is just a website, and there's nothing of substance in the interview. The "Euro-Americana" chart is not an industry chart, but a private chart run by a website, and seems to be based on what people vote on - the latest #1 took 5 votes to get the spot. No gold records, no tour coverage, no major releases. His label is a local indie label that he helps run, and he hasn't won or been nominated for any major music award. No notable media performances, and he's not representative of a genre at all. No rotation, and no documentary. MSJapan (talk) 17:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It seems to me by these guidelines that most every independent musician, performer, songwriter page would have to be removed from wikipedia. Short of littering this page with references to every record review I don't know how to rectify this. In looking at this article I see a reference to a review in Italy's largest newspaper Corriere della Sera, Detroit's largest art and music paperDetroit Metro Times, Britains largest site devoted to Americana Americana-UK.com not to mention within his hometown of Cincinnati where he has been Artist of the Year, songwriter of the year, album of the year and reviewed favorably by every major media outlet for every release (both dailys, both weeklys, radio and television). You are right there are no gold records and no major releases but by definition an independent artist doesn't have either of those. His genre is obviously Americana being a member of Mark Olson and Victoria Williams Original Harmony Ridge Creekdippers and by virtue of the fact that most of his reviews are in Americana publications where he is well received. How should we proceed without cluttering the article further than it already has been. Along with Katie Reider who died tragically last week Wolfenberger is probably the most definitive example of the Blue Jordan sound. Perhaps I should note that along with references in this article but once again I see that it is fairly cluttered in comparison to the last time I saw it and I don't know if more references will help. Bluejordan (talk) 19:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluejordan (talk • contribs) 19:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I did the rewrite of this article and deprodded it. I thought I referenced enough independent non-trivial sources to justify keeping it. His international touring and his involvement and collaboration with Victoria Williams, Mark Olson and Michelle Shocked alone would be grounds for notability aside from his representation of a local scene (Cincinnati) and genre (Americana / Blue Jordan sound). I agree with Bluejordan that further references (of which I found many with just a couple cursory searches) would only clutter an already lengthy article though.70.61.154.202 (talk) 18:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]