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Michael Glyn Brown[edit]

You need to finish the deletion nomination process. There's no place to discuss this. The template will be removed in 24 hours, if you don't complete it. Thanks. — Wyliepedia 03:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

The entire process was executed via automatic script through Twinkle. The article page is appropriately tagged (afd1), the discussion page exists and has content (afd2), and it's correctly placed in the log (afd3). The original author was also already notified. Can you be a little more specific about what the problem is? Entries from my contribs are as follows, and note the timestamp:
  • 01:26, 10 November 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+1,101)‎ . . User talk:WhisperToMe ‎ (Notification: listing at articles for deletion of Michael Glyn Brown. (TW))
  • 01:26, 10 November 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+55)‎ . . Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 November 10 ‎ (Adding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Glyn Brown. (TW))
  • 01:26, 10 November 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+401)‎ . . Michael Glyn Brown ‎ (Nominated for deletion; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Glyn Brown. (TW)) (current) [rollback: 1 edit]
  • 01:26, 10 November 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+1,216)‎ . . N Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Glyn Brown ‎ (Creating deletion discussion page for Michael Glyn Brown. (TW))
MSJapan (talk) 04:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
For some reason, the discussion link is showing as a redlink, but yet, when clicked, takes you to it. At the time, I thought the process was incomplete. Sorry, carry on. — Wyliepedia 06:01, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
No problem. That seems to have been the case every time I have done them, so it must be something related to Twinkle. MSJapan (talk) 16:02, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013[edit]

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November 2013 GOCE drive wrap-up[edit]

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Red link reversion[edit]

I noticed just now that you reverted a red link I created, [1], and I wondered why you did that. Oliver was a prolific author on freemasonry, of over 20 books: see s:Oliver, George (1782-1867). He merits an article, and the red link was well within Wikipedia:Red link. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

It apparently made such a difference that it took you 2.5 years to notice it. If he merits an article, write it - nobody has done so in either Wikipedia's ten-year history or the 2.5 years since I reverted that link; I'd say, therefore, that an article was not "created soon". The editing guideline you cited states very clearly that there is an additional guideline in its introduction, called "Write the article first". Further along in that guideline, it says "red links to personal names should be avoided". So, in fact, my reversion was entirely correct in hindsight, wasn't it? MSJapan (talk) 18:27, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

First, please be civil. We are, after all, colleagues, and I asked you a question for information. WP:WTAF does not apply here, and is an essay only, not a guideline, about list pages, disambiguation pages, templates, see also sections.

There are still over 8000 articles in the Dictionary of the National Biography to add: there were many more then, and they don't get done overnight. To quote again: "Good red links help Wikipedia—they encourage new contributors in useful directions, and remind us that Wikipedia is far from finished." WP:WP DNB is possibly the largest of the missing article projects. It would not be particularly easy to find that reference to George Oliver again: it was surname only. I presume that is why it seemed worthwhile to me to link it, once I identified it.

Second, your temporal argument is flawed, given that removing the link instantly is not the way to get any article created, is it? The link was piped, and there was no BLP issue to be concerned about there. The rationale you cite does not apply in any very telling way.

I have your reason, then, which is that you reverted without comment, as a minor edit, three hours later, because you felt the guideline justified so doing. From my point of view it didn't; and if I had created the article in the short or medium term, in fact half a day later, the reversion would have been a negative. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:40, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

GOCE December 2013 Blitz wrap-up and January Drive invitation[edit]

December Notes from the Guild of Copy Editors
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The December blitz ran from December 8–14. The theme for this blitz was articles tied in some way to religion. Seven editors knocked out 20 articles over the course of the week. Our next blitz will be in February, with a theme to be determined. Feel free to make theme suggestions at the Guild talk page!

The January 2014 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on January 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in October and November 2012 and complete all requests placed before the end of 2013. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in October and November 2012", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there!

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GOCE 2013 Annual Report[edit]

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The GOCE has wrapped up another successful year of operations!

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GOCE February blitz wrapup[edit]

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Participation: Out of seven people who signed up for this blitz, all copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

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March GOCE copyedit drive[edit]

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GOCE March drive wrapup[edit]

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Participation: Thanks to all who participated in the drive and helped out behind the scenes. 42 people signed up for this drive and 28 of these completed at least one article. Final results are available here.

Progress report: Articles tagged during the target months of December 2012 and January 2013 were reduced from 177 to 33, and the overall backlog was reduced by 13 articles. The total backlog was 2,902 articles at the end of March. On the Requests page during March, 26 copy edit requests were completed, all requests from January 2014 were completed, and the length of the queue was reduced by 11 articles.

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Request for translation: List of sources for an article[edit]

MSJapan, on the Reference desk someone recommended using the list of translators in response to a request. Are you willing to translate portions of or all of the list of references on this page? es:Wikipedia discusión:Consultas de borrado/Liceo Mexicano Japonés? It is for an AFD on the Spanish Wikipedia. This is so Spanish-speaking editors can understand what Japanese references exist about the subject. You are welcome to translate the references into English.

Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 11:45, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I will get to it within 24 hours. MSJapan (talk) 10:25, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

April blitz wrap-up and May copyediting drive invitation[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors April 2014 Blitz wrap-up
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Participation: Out of 17 people who signed up for this blitz, eight copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we removed 28 articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the May drive! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Baffle gab1978.

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GOCE June 2014 newsletter[edit]

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Participation: Thanks to all who participated! Out of 51 people who signed up this drive, 33 copy edited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We reduced our article backlog from 2,987 articles to 2,236 articles in May, the lowest backlog total since we began keeping records in 2009! Since at least 300 new articles were tagged during May, that means we copy edited over 1,000 articles in a single month. Amazing work, everyone!

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GOCE July 2014 newsletter[edit]

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GOCE July drive and August blitz[edit]

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Participation: Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the 40 people who signed up this drive, 22 copy edited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We reduced our article backlog from 2400 articles to 2199 articles in July. This is a new month-end record low for the backlog. Nice work, everyone!

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English-Japanese Translation[edit]

Hello MSJapan! I'm looking for a Japanese-speaking editor who has the time and interest to update the Japanese AIG page. It looks like it could use some TLC to bring it up to speed with the English article. Thanks! MsGingerHoneycutt (talk) 16:17, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

GOCE October 2014 newsletter[edit]

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GOCE coordinator elections[edit]

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Candidate nominations for Guild coordinators to serve from January 1 to June 30, 2015, are currently underway. The nomination period will close at 23:59 on December 15 (UTC), after which voting will commence until 23:59 on December 31, 2014. Self-nominations are welcomed. Please consider getting involved; it's your Guild and it won't coordinate itself, so if you'd like to help coordinate Guild activities we'd love to hear from you.

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December 2014 GOCE newsletter[edit]

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Drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in November's Backlog Elimination Drive. Of the 43 people who signed up for this drive, 26 copy edited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: The November Drive removed 26 requests from the Requests page and 509 articles from the {{copy edit}} backlog. We copy edited 83 articles tagged in the target months; July, August, and September 2013. Together with tag removals from articles unsuitable for copy editing, we eliminated July 2013 from the backlog and reduced August and September's tags to 61 and 70 respectively. As of 01:01, 1 December 2014 (UTC), the backlog stood at 1,974 articles, dipping below 2,000 for the first time in the Guild's history (see graph at right). Well done everyone!

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GOCE holiday 2014 newsletter[edit]

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Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the December Blitz. Of the 14 editors who signed up for the blitz, 11 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

January drive: The January backlog-reduction drive is just around the corner; sign up here!

Election time again: The election of coordinators to serve from January 1 to June 30, 2015 is now underway. The voting period runs from December 16, 00:01 (UTC), until December 31, 23:59. Please cast your vote—it's your Guild, and it doesn't run itself!

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GOCE 2014 report[edit]

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Our 2014 Annual Report is now ready for review.

Highlights:

  • Summary of Drives, Blitzes, and the Requests page;
  • Review the election results;
  • Membership news;
  • Changes around the Guild's pages;
  • Plans for 2015.
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February 2015 GOCE newsletter[edit]

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Drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in January's Backlog Elimination Drive. Of the 38 people who signed up for this drive, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were able to remove August 2013 from the general copyediting backlog and November 2014 from the request-page backlog. Many thanks, everyone!

Blitz: The February Blitz will run from February 15–21 and again focuses on the requests page. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one request article. Sign up here!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Biblioworm and Philg88.

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February 2015[edit]

Sony Music Entertainment owns the Buddah Records catalogue. Sony Music also owns Flying Buddha Records. Any time a record company revives an old name, it becomes a continuation of the article about the old record label. Dot Records is a more recent example thanks to its revival by a unit of Universal Music Group which owns the original Dot Records catalogue. They also revived the original Dot Records logo. Steelbeard1 (talk) 16:11, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

GOCE March newsletter[edit]

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Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 21 people who signed up, eight copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: The blitz removed 16 articles from the requests list, and we're almost done with December 2014. Many thanks, everyone!

Drive: The month-long March drive begins in about a week. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Biblioworm and Philg88.

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April 2015 GOCE newsletter[edit]

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March drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in last month's backlog-reduction drive. Of the 38 people who signed up, 18 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

April blitz: The one-week April blitz, again targeting our long requests list, will run from April 19–25. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the requests page. Sign up here!

May drive: The month-long May backlog-reduction drive, with extra credit for articles tagged in December 2013, January and February 2014 and all request articles, begins soon. Sign up now!

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Grand Lodge of Freemasonry for Men and Women[edit]

I think you were off the grid when we discussed the necessity of external references for GLs. In this instance, this reference shows that there is no financial movement - no income, no outgoings - they're gone.

This is typical of unsuccessful schisms, and I smelled a rat when I realised they had split over the GAOTU omission. The mystical nature of Freemasonry in English DH lodges makes it inherently unattractive to atheists. Somebody threw teddy out of the pram. These schisms are not infrequent at a lodge level, as the Theosophists manage to fall out with everybody else. I can't document this (yet) but my personal research tells me that the Horus lodge of the Golden Dawn resurrected themselves three years after their apparent demise, hidden inside the local Droit Humain lodge in Leeds. I met a member who told me about it's intermittent functioning down to the 1990s, then another fall-out. Their ritual gear, and their original warrant, are now being used by a GD group in Halifax.

BTW, welcome back. Fiddlersmouth (talk) 21:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


Preuss et al.[edit]

First of all - calm down. Axelrod is the least worthy source, true, but I went to his sources and their sources - Alvin Schmit's book was a scholarly book written in 1979, and Preuss 1922 and Stevens 1899 were the main sources for both books. I went to the sources of my sources until I could go no further. So times I could go to old magazines and newspapers that had the information. Sometimes all I could find was these old reference books. What is so wrong with that? If more recent information about these orders is in order than get a published, reliable source so you can write that into the article. Just the Shriners webpage is not an ideal source.

As for womens groups being under side degrees - well there are women's appendent versions of side degrees, are there not?--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 23:15, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

No offense, but all this hair-spliting about the differences between an appendent body, a side degree, a womans degree etc. seems like semantics. There are womens organizations related to the Shriners, yes? Ok, then if the Shriners are a side degree then doesn't that at least make the womens group relevant to a list of side degrees? I mean the page as a sort of hub for the different side degrees and their related groups. I guess we could reformat the list if you really think that is necessary.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 23:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Here, I reformated the Side Degree page to "List of Side Degrees and related bodie

List of Side degree and related bodies

Will this satisfy your objections?--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 23:59, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but the article has information about non-Masonic bodies as well. BTW, I have answered your objections to the List of American ethnic and religious fraternal orders on its AFD page.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 00:27, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

GOCE June 2015 newsletter[edit]

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May drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in last month's backlog-reduction drive. Of the 38 people who signed up, 29 copyedited at least one article, and we got within 50 articles of our all-time low in the backlog. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Coordinator elections: Nominations are open through June 15 for GOCE coordinators, with voting from June 16–30. Self-nominations are welcome and encouraged.

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Scott Disick[edit]

This article has been re-created and is at AfD for the fourth time. Your comments will be welcome. I am notifying everyone who contributed to the previous AfDs. JohnCD (talk) 21:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Birthdate and birthplace[edit]

Apropos Birthdate and birthplace and OTRS: See WP:DOB. --Elvey(tc) 04:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)