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Would you like a practical joke? (last chance).
Would you like a Swedish massage? (last chance).
The end

Yeah, it's one year delayed. The public announcement below in which I announced my departure was back in January. I tried to change my cynical attitude toward the project and give it another shot. It didn't work. It ain't never gonna work. Ban-evading socks are still allowed to roam around harassing editors and POV pushing all over the place. Factions and cabals are formed to scheme a plan to drive certain editors off the project. (for instance, my arbCom case). I don't think any good faith editors would wanna work in such an oppressive environment, unless, of course, they got nothing better to do. I came back last month after a 5 months hiatus realizing things would never change for the better. If an identified sockpuppet of a fucking troll can request a username change while an established editor who got set-up by a shameless faction in the community is denied this privilege, then the system is fucked up. Seriously, this is a just a bloody username change under the due process, as simple as that. I don’t understand why the ‘crats gotta listen to a troll/sockpuppet. What a blatant example of hypocrisy and double-standard.

In reflection, I have to say that I’m quite proud of the way I acted on wikipedia. My proudest achievements are defending the right to use joke banners during the UI spoofing incident, relentless pursuit of RevolverOcelotX and his ban-evading socks against overwhelming adversity, standing up against admin Jiang for his blatant racism on Taiwanese, and fighting with a factions of POV pushers who clearly want me out of the project (Sumple, blueshirt, Ideogram, RevolverOcelotX, Ben Aveling, Wizardman, Jiang, Aquarius, etc). I’m happy to say that I lasted longer than most of them.

To the trolls, racists, admis who abuse editors, sockpuppets, and others (y’all know who you are), keep wasting your time, I ain’t gonna stop y’all. To the good-faith people out-there, there is more to life than ‘pedia. Live your lives to the fullest instead of wasting it online.

Wikipedia needs a revolution. Otherwise, there is no hope. Anyway, I’m here only for the arbcom election. We’re at a crossroad. Make the right choice, vote the right people.

China=shame! Long live joke banners.

"Keep ya head up. Do what you gotta do. And then, inside of you, I will be reborn."-Tupac Shakur

Peace,

Certified.Gangsta

*Persona non grata

The following persons are personae non grata on my user page and user talk page. Where permitted by policy and practice, any edits by them may be reverted/removed on sight:

Public Announcement

This is most likely the last time that I address to fellow wikipedians. For some of you who have been following my contributions closely, you may have noticed a significant drop in recent edits. Yup, you're right, I'm officially outta here. I wouldn't rule out some occasional, random edits if I'm in the mood but you probably have seen the last of Bonafide Hustla.

I gotta admit I'm not the best editor on here "temperament-wise". But it should be noted that many Taiwan-related articles are gang-patrolled by Chinese editors, some of them admins. Sadly, no one is willing to take on the case. The other issue is User:Centrx disregard official blocking policy and abuse of admin power. He also move page without consensus and block me for 1 second (unjustified). Both of these are definitely no-no for admins.

Recently, Bish and Giano both left the project. This only emphasizes obvious flaws of the project. I don't blame Jimbo. His idea is great but it just doesn't work anymore as more and more editors join in.


Anyway, 'nuff said already and this is poorly-written anyway. Jiang and RevolverOcelotX have fun POV pushing all you like. (get a life y'all) I got better things to do. holla--Certified.Gangsta 22:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have one on me

File:Glass of beer Australia Day 2005.jpg
Have one on me!

Sorry to see you go, Boney. :-( Me, I haven't left, I've only determined I'm leaving iff. You know, iff Giano's pushed out. This is not a demonstration on my part, it's simply me not wanting to work in an environment that'll do such a thing. Definitely, absolutely, not wanting to. Have one on me, and here's hoping we all get to stick around no matter how dark it's looking right now. Bishonen | talk 22:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Your RFA

Hello Certified Gangsta, I have closed your recent RFA as it had little to no chance of passing right now. Please review the concerns of the opposers, work at addressing their concerns over the next few months, and consider retrying then. Cheers, -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 05:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry..

Sorry about editing your userpage banner, CG. I just thought my version was funnier, and I'd completely forgotten that there was already a similar massage offer on this talk page... Anyway. Bishzilla will keep an eye on it, for as long as she sticks around. She's an admin now, believe it or not, and much more enthusiastic about the whole deal than I am. Stay well, sorry you feel pushed out. You sound about as cynical as I feel.. Bishonen | talk 12:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]

It's okay, Bish. It's not really your fault. Congrats to Bishzilla on her promotion. I'm not around very much these days. Hope you're doing well (both online and in real life).--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 22:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PalaceGuard008

Do you have a checkuser result for your PalaceGuard008 sockpuppet claim? If it is a sock (which is allowed under WP:SOCK under most circumstances) there's no requirement that it self-identify if it's not a user who is under sanction. Do you have evidence that this applies to PalaceGuard008? If the answer to the previous two questions is no, then please stop editing that user page. You've been asked by the user and your intent seems to be to aggravate. If this is not true or there's info missing, please clarify. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 12:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chairboy is correct - the user has asked you to stop, please do. Do not edit that page again. Neıl 龱 13:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At the RfA

Hi CG, please refactor your comment at NVS's RfA, it was unduly harsh. Thanks, R. Baley (talk) 01:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC) In case it is not clear, this part in particular, "Wikipedia will be better off without him". Thanks, R. Baley (talk) 01:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Certified.Gangsta [1] [[2]] [[3]] put yourself in my position. he drove me out of the project.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 01:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your grievances, and I think I commented on one or more of those. . . but it costs you nothing to be a little charitable, and nothing is gained by the extra comment. How 'bout it? Please. R. Baley (talk) 01:54, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No hard feelings. Even though I think Mercury owes me an apology for persecuting a powerless non-admin in an exhaustive way (my talkpage, ANI, RfC, Miscellany for deletion despite more support on my side on every venue) that drove me on the verge of a nervous breakdown. It was apparent that he thinks wikipedia would be better off without me. I hate to be vengeful, but I think after his recall, Angela Beesley controversy, arbitrator campaign, attacking Bishonen and Giano during Durova’s recall, etc, etc, what I said is really an honest assessment of what I think of him. I would retract if you insist, but it was an honest assessment nevertheless.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 02:06, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Retired or not

A player does not have to officially say I am retiring to be retired, some guys don't get signed by a team again and therefore are considered retired, I changed these guys infoboxes because they didn't get signed and most likely won't and in some cases they are now broadcasters or do other things, for example Reggie Sanders is now a broadcaster for the D-backs, so most likely he is finished--Yankees10 00:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It’s best to wait for at least one year to label them as finished. Look at guys like Kent Mercker, Mike Lincoln, and Sammy Sosa last year. They all made successful comeback after surgery. Javy Lopez and Edgardo Alfonzo and a handful of others also attempt comebacks this spring. I wouldn’t be surprised if guys like Rodrigo Lopez, Russ Ortiz, Freddy Garcia come back after they recover. Guys like David Wells, Kenny Lofton, Royce Clayton, Barry Bonds, and Roger Clemens still might get pick up this season during the stretch run or sign a minor-league contract to compete for a roster spot next spring. Same with Marcus Giles who is only 30. So I think it is not right to count them out until at least spring training next year.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 00:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well I tried to stay away from young guys like Freddy Garcia, and Russ Ortiz and a few others should still be considered free agents, so you are right about those, but guys like David Wells (45 years old), Reggie Sanders (broadcaster), Roger Clemens (legal issues), and a few others should still have the retired infobox, if they sign with a team, you can always change it, please hold off reverting until we resolve this--Yankees10 00:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[[4]] Unfortunately, you gave Russ Ortiz the retired box. The only reason he is not with a team (major/minor/independent/Japan) is because he is recovering from Tommy John surgery. David Wells was linked to the Yankees as recent as last month and Eric Milton just signed a minor-league contract with the Yankees a few months ago. Reggie Sanders is still working out and waiting for a phone call. Notice I didn’t disagree with your edit on Damian Miller? I know he is done because he is only interested in playing for the Brewers. The fact that they are looking for work or recovering from injury doesn’t mean they are retired.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 01:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I went overboard with the Russ Ortiz, I didn't realize he was recovering from sugery, and I didn't change the Damian Miller, MisfitToys did, also please dont track my edits--Yankees10 01:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can I ask why you went to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR‎, when we are trying to resolve this in a peaceful manner--Yankees10 01:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did not track your edits. I simply noticed your obsession with labeling free agents as retired in the course of researching the unsigned big names and possible collusion. As for your concern, you violated 3RR in David Wells. I didn’t have a choice.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 01:22, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously what is your problem, here we are having a good discussion, and all the sudden you become rude, saying I have an obsession and saying I had no choice--Yankees10 01:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not revert any of my edits, I am going to open a discussion at WP:MLB--Yankees10 01:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If I offended you in anyway, I sincerely apologize. I just think you are overzealous in labeling free agents as retired. I think it’s disrespectful to the players who are still working out, keeping fit, and waiting for that one last phone call such as Steve Finley, who went to winter meeting this year meeting with GMs of every major league team. Guys like Jeff Cirillo, Damian Miller, and Sandy Alomar are clearly done and I didn’t revert those edits, but the guys I did revert are different.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 01:30, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am actually starting to agree with you about this, but theres just one thing, how is Jeff Cirillo any more retired than Reggie Sanders, also can you please take my name off the 3RR board, I think we are resolving this without the need of any one getting in trouble--Yankees10 01:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

People from the board had just clear you from any wrong doing so you’ll be fine. No block is coming. Apparently, your edit wasn’t consider a revert.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 01:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh alright, but how is Jeff Cirillo any more retired than Reggie Sanders, also if you haven't noticed in the intro of Roger Clemens page it says "former", which I didn't add, I just thought I'd point out--Yankees10 01:47, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Damn I gotta remove the former later when I got time. As for your question about Sanders and Cirillo, this article[[5]] is very interesting. In the article, it says that Cirillo's career apparently is over after a meeting with Brewers GM Doug Melvin while Sanders, working as a broadcaster, is still crossing his finger for one last chance and keeping himself in shape.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 02:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In your zeal

to unretire Clemens you inexplicably reverted to an old version, thereby deleting a bunch of intervening edits. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh shit! Sorry. Feel free to add them back as you wish.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 02:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ken Griffey

Please see this thread for an explanation of why two-article disambiguation pages should be avoided. Also mentioned is that "Ken Griffey" (without a suffix) is more likely to refer to Ken Griffey, Sr., but if you're correct that the reverse is true, the page should redirect to Ken Griffey, Jr.. Either way, a two-article disambiguation page merely ensures that no one immediately reaches the desired article, and it doesn't enable anyone to get there there sooner (because with a hatnote, the other article remains one click away). —David Levy 10:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you want to avoid a two-article disambiguation page for the sake of convenience, it is a peculiar choice to choose Griffey Sr. over the Kid.
1. Junior is clearly the superior player (a future hall of famer) with superior stats across the board. This point is not debatable. It's a fact.
2. Junior is still active while the dad has been retired for 17 years.
The point is when someone is searching for Ken Griffey, he/she is more likely looking for Junior.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 23:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that Ken Griffey, Jr. is the more talented and famous player, but there are two reasons why I selected Ken Griffey, Sr. as the redirect target:
1. For years, Ken Griffey, Sr. was known simply as "Ken Griffey," and in the world of baseball, "Ken Griffey" referred exclusively to that player. As a result, many fans from that era still omit the "Sr." in their minds (and refer to the father as "Ken Griffey" and the son as "Ken Griffey, Jr."). Conversely, while people often refer to Ken Griffey, Jr. as "Griffey," it's uncommon to hear him referred to as "Ken Griffey." (The "Jr." part is so prevalent that people sometimes abbreviate his name as "Junior.")
2. Before the disambiguation page was created, Ken Griffey served as a redirect to Ken Griffey, Sr. (so I restored the original setup).
I would, however, be fine with Ken Griffey redirecting to whichever player consensus dictates. Either way is vastly preferable to a two-article disambiguation page. —David Levy 19:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree both are vastly preferable than a two-article disambiguation. I think it should be in the community's best interest to garner more input from more editors about this matter.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 22:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

I see you've been posting at the Baseball WikiProject to help us figure out the infobox dilemma. I know we haven't gotten along in the past, but hopefully we can work together in the future. However you were in earlier years, you seem to be very constructive and willing to help out now, so hopefully I'll see you around. Regards, Wizardman 11:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With the benefit of hindsight, I realize the whole Keeley Hazell mess was quite pointless. At the time there was a bunch of anonymous IP addresses changing British to English, so I thought there was some ulterior and shady motives. That's why I insisted to keep the original version to prevent these IPs from reaching their aim even though I obviously had no expertise on the matter since I'm not British. Then I was pissed off about your comments in my arbCom case and in Wikipedia Review. Hopefully, we could put the feud behind us and strive to make 'pedia a better encyclopedia. After all, I'm not here for the politics, for the position, for social networking, or for the drama. (I have moved you out of my personae non grata as a gesture of goodwill).--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 21:47, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thanks. Much appriciated, no need to harbor ill will for things that became more dramatic then they needed to be. Of course I'll admit to acting pretty badly towards you, of course that won't happen again. :) Wizardman 23:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ideogram

Hi User:Blnguyen! Thank you for blocking Ideogram’s sock Slashem. There is no doubt that Slashem is his sock based on contribution (he also uses the name Slashem on IRC). However, his main account’s 1 year ban is set to expire in 2 weeks (August 15th). Given that he is gaming the system, effectively evading his ban, and showing a lack of respect for wikipedia policy, a complete siteban would be appropriate on his main account as well or at the very least the 1 year ban should be restarted. Note that he also edits with his IP address (User:66.234.217.151) Thank you--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 22:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems Jehochman has done it. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually Jehochman has not. He did list Ideogram under banned user list[6], but he has yet to unblock then reblock Ideogram for a period of 1 year (The original 1-year community ban is set to expire on August 15th). I'm confused by his reluctance to reset the ban. Ideogram/Slashem's IP address User:66.234.217.151 is also guilty of ban-evasion and in my opinion, should be blocked for 1 year as well to avoid future violations.--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 06:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you remind Jehochman that he wrote a message authorising the new ban but that he forgot to "press the button"? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Certified...?

Certified.Crybaby sounds more like it. Cheers Sky Divine (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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