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Brett Salisbury

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This person is non-notable. The sporting achievements are minor, the modeling claims are questionable, and the opening claim of being a nutritionist is unsubstantiated other than by an, as yet, unpublished book (also subject to an AfD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Transform_diet). Poltair (talk) 14:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Thank you, Poltair, for regularising this additional nomination. This person is not notable, the sources aren't reliable, his achievements aren't important, and I don't much care how long his commute is. It all just reads like advertising puffery for his book. AlexTiefling (talk) 15:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Do NOT Delete The harlon Hill finalist is bigger than any all-american list. There are college athletes that have this title and only this title with wikipeida articles.This list alone qualifies him as the ELITE. Again, the sourced article here will tell you where and how long he played pro football. Male Super Model: ***Comment The harlon Hill finalist alone qualifies him:

1. Harlon Hill Finalist: http://www.harlonhill.com/Archives/candidates_by_team.htm 2. Hall of Fame Collegiate Player: http://www.wsc.edu/athletics/football/archives/passing/ 3. All-American Quarterback, Pro-Football Player with Helsinki Giants, and Prague Panthers: http://www.palomar.edu/athletics/football/history/ 4. IMDB Actor for Promise me this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2086154/ 5. Filands sexiest male and male super model: http://www.paparazzi.fi/ 6. Google Brett Salisbury at the news tab, go to all dates on left...the articles are endless on this guy! TheWizard49 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment As previously discussed at the Transform Diet nomination: 1) Being a finalist for a comparatively minor college football trophy is not notable. 2) Whose Hall of Fame? If it's just one college, that's not notable. 3) Whose all-American listing? Is that notable? 4) The IMDB entry shows that this film is the only one by its production company, that the director also wrote the screenplay, and that virtually none of the actors even have a photograph online. It looks like a non-notable production. 5) I'm not convinced that's a notable achievement or a reliable source. 6) Oh yeah? AlexTiefling (talk) 15:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Addendum OK, so I forgot to click 'all dates' in Google. This stuff just appears to be local press coverage of his college career, though. 'Brett Salisbury gets passing grade'? Spare me, please. AlexTiefling (talk) 15:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My final comment on this matter: Many articles are written in finnish and Czech, You need to verify that. Every tab on the bottom (Mormon Missionaries, Wayne State College, Brigham Young Cougars, Nutritionists etc) qualify him as he was a member of each. This cannot be denied. Whether it's big or small in your eyes, the articles written ALL verify this. Again the All-American list of JC Gridwire is an elite group. The male model articles are again in italian and Finnish. Find a way to translate those and go from there. Take care. I'm done with this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 15:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, I don't speak a word of Finnish, and my Italian is rusty at best. Simplly having his article listed in a series of Wikipedia categories is neither a claim to verifiability, nor notability. Not every Mormon missionary is notable. He's only regarded as a nutritionist (as noted in the nomination) because of his unpublished book. I belong to a couple of dozen Wikipedia categories, but none of that makes me notable. AlexTiefling (talk) 15:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 16:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • No offense Mr.Brit but you havn't quite got the resume as Mr. Salisbury! Don't over due it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 16:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't believe you can dispute the claim or attack the credibility of Brett Salisbury. However, the book the tranform diet needs to be removed. I agree. It's not on shelves. However everything he has done and has been verified is noteworthy. I see he has been on the list for 3 years. The transform diet was recent. Vote to remove transform diet, but leave Brett Salisbury —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 16:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to closing admin additional deletion discussion regarding this article can be found at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Transform_diet (relocated from the main deletion discussion as being off-topic). -Verdatum (talk) 17:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I did a fairly signifigant cleanup of the article for WP:BLP. I cannot see establishment of notability either as a sports star or as an author, as per WP:BIO. All I see are runner-up standings and minor awards. -Verdatum (talk) 18:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Concerned about the lack of references for his sporting and modeling achievements - many of them do not link to anything relevant (and the readers poll for a local newspaper is not an appropriate reference). Also concerned about the EFAF Cup. I'm not American, or otherwise have much knowledge of American Football, but Wikipedia says EFAF is only the "... second highest level of club competition ...". This seems way down the ladder of notability: America -> Europe -> Europe 2nd league. This guy has obviously done a lot of things in his life, I'm just not sure how notable (aka Wikipedia notability) they are individually. An article should be able to explain to someone like me (i.e. someone with little knowledge of football, which is his main claim to fame) why the guy is notable (and I should be able to verify the claims). At the moment, it does not do this. THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 18:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Verdatum. Stifle (talk) 19:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per AlexTiefling. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of football also-rans in the U.S. If this person was notable as major contributors to the article claim, there would be sources to back it up. Movingboxes (talk) 20:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Interesting News On Salisbury: According to International Football Scouting Report online by Professional Scout Ken Robinson, he says "Here are the TOP 10 Paid Players of All Time in Europe: #1 Estrus Crayton #2 Xavier Crawford #3 Tony Rice #4 Brett Salisbury #5 Tom Young #6 Ron Lopez #7 Petrus Pankki #8 Sammi Alalammpi #9 Damon Huard #10 Jeff Loot

Please go to: http://www.leaguelineup.com/guestbook.asp?url=ifs-scouting&sid=859417480 Of this list Tony Rice was Heisman Trophy finalist in college, Sammi Alalammpi played for the NFL Europe Barcelona Dragons and was Salisbury's receiver. The article also says Salisbury was First Team all-Europe in 1995 Quarterback and player of the year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 23:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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