Talk:Paper Trail

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This article was nominated for deletion on 8 March 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

This is a real album and it has been cited. I've read numerous articles on the rapper and his upcoming cd.

I believe that this is a real item. It has not been cited; there are no references in this article. If you know of a reliable source that definitely confirms the information in this article, that would help it overcome both this and this objection. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No Matter What

T.I. said that "No Matter What" is not an offical single. I don't get why people keep putting it as a single. It's just a leaked track. SE KinG (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it is not a leaked track, but rather a promotional single. I suppose that, in itself, could be counted at as the "first single," regardless of the fact that it is not an official single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tri-Edge (talk • contribs) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paper Trail Pushed Back Alittle More

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=11312111&MyToken=56250cb4-cbfa-4a79-b7db-3cd988642819

On his myspace it says 9/9. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.237.92 (talk) 16:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed guests?

Can someone please post the reference that says that Lil Wayne is on "What's Up, What's Happening" and that Kanye West is on "Sitting on Top of the World"? Other-wise there is no use putting up false hope information. SE KinG (talk) 11:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Louis Ray

Whoever added that track, can you please but up a reference for that information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SE KinG (talk • contribs) 00:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's up, What's Happening

The page says that the first single was released June 17th, but I can't find it anywhere for download? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.144.4.138 (talk) 18:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cant be tha cover

Because the dimensions aren't the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.11.250.4 (talk) 03:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a work in progress cover. There going to cut it down and add the text. SE KinG (talk) 04:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not-so-confirmed tracks

I removed several songs from the confirmed tracks section that did not meet our policy for verifiability or WP:RS. Here is a breakdown of the what I have removed:

Title	Reason
"Be Free"	The only citation for these come from WordPress, a blog host, which therefore fails WP:RS.
"Hustla's Struggle"
"Limelight (Intro)"
"On My Job"
"The Block Still Got Me"
"Out in the Cold"	No citation whatsoever. Fails the basic concept of confirmed in "confirmed tracks".
"What Up, What's Happenin'"	All this link tells me is that there is a song called "What Up" by T.I. and is not on any of his albums (ALBUM: N/A). Now, with this link, to come to the conclusion that a song called "What Up, What's Happenin'" will be on this album is pure original research.

I'm not implying that these songs will not be on the upcoming album, but until they are not confirmed by reliable, verifiable sources, we should not mention them on the article. Thanks, Do U(knome)? ^yes...|_{or no} 21:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just gonna throw this out there, A Better Day was a song that was leaked in late June, rumored to be on Paper Trail, but no official source has stated it.

http://nahright.com/news/2008/06/22/ti-a-better-day/

Also "Out in the Cold" was confirmed by MTV.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1590835/20080714/fall_out_boy.jhtml

But however it was stated as "under consideration". So I do not believe it should be under confirmed tracks.

I agree with most of your thoughts except "What Up, What's Happenin'", an unofficial music video has been made (unknown if it will be a single). Kind of what Plies did for some of his tracks on Definition of Real. But thats just my thoughts. SE KinG (talk) 01:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unexplained Removal

Can someone explain to me why this information was removed?

Album information
On August 5, T.I. confirmed that Rihanna, Justin Timberlake, Usher, Fall Out Boy, & John Legend are set to appear on the album.^[1] He also stated that two music videos for "Swing Ya Rag" and "What Up, What's Happenin'" are currently being worked on and he also included a behind the scenes look at the "Swing Ya Rag" video.^[2]

The video for "Whatever You Like" was released on BET's Access Granted on August 6, 2008.

T.I. will also be visiting BET's 106 & Park on August 7 and will give the complete 411 on his new album and premiere his "Whatever You Like" video as the new joint.^[3]

Tracks
In an official statement, T.I. announced that he will be releasing the first street/promotional song off Paper Trail on Tuesday, April 29 on Streetcred.com. "I already know the demand is great, the anticipation is very high, and the wait is almost over man," T.I. said. "I promise you something special and I will deliver."^[4] The song was released on StreetCred.com on April 29th as a promotional single then online for sale on May 6, 2008. It is called "No Matter What" with a music video for the song already being finished ^[5] and it was released on MTV's FN Premieres on June 27. On July 4, 2008, T.I. added a new song to his MySpace titled "Swing Your Rag".^[6] Another track "What Up What's Happenin'" was also leaked to the internet and is now on his MySpace also.^[7] T.I. also collaborated with Fall Out Boy on a track called "Out in the Cold".^[8]

SE KinG (talk) 01:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swing Ya Rag/Whatever U like

Isn't Swing Ya Rag the Second single Whatever you like the first single and No Matter what the Promotional single? Because that is not what they say in their articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Sire (talk • contribs) 23:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swagger Like Us

it leaked today it features Kanye West, Jay-z and Lil Wayne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.138.22 (talk) 07:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So? Just because it's leaked doesn't mean it's on 'Paper Trail'.

It was previewed at the PAPER TRAIL listening party last week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KyleEshna (talk • contribs) 18:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now that a reliable source like MTV has confirmed it, it can be put on the page. I was just saying my comment above because no one would post a reference with the song. SE KinG (talk) 03:30, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swagger Like Us REMIX

iS going to feature Young Jeezy KanYe's Blog

Jeezy? That's probably gonna be better then the normal. SE KinG (talk) 03:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know.

--Piazzajordan2 (Talk.) 05:27, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'You Ain't Ready'

A new song, 'You Ain't Ready' was leaked a few days ago, and is produced by The Runners, does anyone know anything about it? I havn't read anything about it being a track from Paper Trail. (DipSetGeezer (talk) 20:00, 24 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

A few days ago? Song was leaked months ago. SE KinG (talk) 20:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, okay smart arse, you got an answer though? If not then keep the smart shit to yourself! You will have Herlems finest on your door step! Haha! (DipSetGeezer (talk) 21:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

^ Jason. (August 5, 2008). T.I. Says Rihanna, Usher And Justin Timberlake Are On Paper Trail. Accessed August 5, 2008.
^ T.I. Shoots Two Videos For Paper Trail Accessed August 5, 2005.
^ Cite error: The named reference T.I.websitenews was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ T.I. Announces First Song Off Paper Trail., 2008-04-25, retrieved 2008-04-26
^ T.I. Talks Fashion On Swizz Beatz-Produced Song From 'Intricate' And 'Intelligent' New Album VH1.com. Accessed June 08, 2008.
^ T.I.'s Myspace
^ "Swing Your Rag" and "What Up" audio. Accessed July 4, 2008.
^ James Montgomery. (July 14, 2008). Fall Out Boy, T.I. Team Up For Personal Song With 'Nightmare Before Christmas' Sound. MTV News. Accessed July 14, 2008.

[1] Jason. (August 5, 2008). T.I. Says Rihanna, Usher And Justin Timberlake Are On Paper Trail. Accessed August 5, 2008.

[2] T.I. Shoots Two Videos For Paper Trail Accessed August 5, 2005.

[T.I.websitenews-3] Cite error: The named reference T.I.websitenews was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[4] T.I. Announces First Song Off Paper Trail., 2008-04-25, retrieved 2008-04-26

[VH1-5] T.I. Talks Fashion On Swizz Beatz-Produced Song From 'Intricate' And 'Intelligent' New Album VH1.com. Accessed June 08, 2008.

[6] T.I.'s Myspace

[7] "Swing Your Rag" and "What Up" audio. Accessed July 4, 2008.

[falloutboyt.i.-8] James Montgomery. (July 14, 2008). Fall Out Boy, T.I. Team Up For Personal Song With 'Nightmare Before Christmas' Sound. MTV News. Accessed July 14, 2008.

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