Talk:Jersey Shore

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Raritan Bay

It says the Jersey Shore "excludes the estuaries of New York Bay and Delaware Bay." What about the beaches of Raritan Bay, espcially in northern Monmouth County near Keyport and Aberdeen?

I think it depends on whether or not someone is talking about "the Shore" as a destination or "the Shore" as a region. If one is talking about the region then certainly Monmouth Co. (except those areas in the 609 area code) is in that region. On the other hand, I'm from Monmouth Co. and I've never heard anyone say "i'm going down the shore" because they were headed to Keyport. People always have, and still do refer to that area as the Bayshore. In terms of the Bayshore I think Earle is the cutoff. People definitely include Atlantic Highlands and Highlands as part of "the shore." I also think it's important to note somewhere that i've never heard a native of the area say "i'm going to the shore." They say they're "going to the beach". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.212.126 (talk) 18:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Geographically, the term encompasses the New Jersey coast from Sandy Hook in the north to Cape May in the south and excludes the estuaries of New York Bay and Delaware Bay." So I guess Raritan Bay is sort of a gray area in regards to the sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.185.189 (talk) 13:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Shore"

Regarding In almost all cases the word "shore" itself only refers to the beaches of New Jersey, as it is almost unthinkable to refer to anything outside of New Jersey as a "shore.":

What? I don't understand what the author is getting at here. Can someone explain it? -Rwv37 19:43, May 2, 2004 (UTC)

I have no idea what that means. -- Decumanus | Talk 21:57, 2 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'm getting rid of it. -Rwv37 17:07, May 9, 2004 (UTC)

What it means is, nowhere else do people say they are going to "the shore" only in NJ do tehy call it this.

How can you say this definatively?MCWicoff 05:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

People everywhere in the mid-atlantic states call the coastal areas "the shore" or some variation of it. In Delaware it's definitely "the shore". In Maryland the use the term "the shore" to differentiate between the atlantic ocean and beaches on the Chesapeake. In Virginia "the shore" or "eastern shore" are the coastal communities on the Delmarva peninsula and "the beach" refers to Virginia Beach. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.212.126 (talk) 17:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shore Region

There is a new article Shore Region that was suggested for merging into this article. The article doesn't have much content and woud have seemed a likely candidate to change to a redirect. Howevere, the New Jersey article describes that "the New Jersey Commerce, Economic Growth & Tourism Commission divides the state into six distinct regions to facilitate the state's tourism industry." This might very well justify keeping it as a standalone article. Alansohn 00:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, I'm the one who suggested the merge. The creator of the Shore Region article has removed the merge suggestion from that article, and left a message on my talk page. I believe that what he was expressing there was that while "Jersey Shore" is a colloquial term, "Shore Region" is an official designation with different boundaries. If my interpretation of what he said is indeed accurate, then the Shore Region article needs to have this contextual information added so others will not wonder, as I did, why that particular part of the Jersey Shore is being portrayed as distinct in its own right. If this is accurate, then the merge would not be appropriate. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 22:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I went ahead and did what I could after stumbling onto this controversy. Hope it is well received (Hi Alan, more work for you now! Only the Skylands Region article you wrote is extant).Rblaster 17:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- The expanded introduction to Shore Region that Rblaster wrote cleared up the confusion I had regarding the difference between the two terms. It's now clear that they require separate articles, so I've removed the suggested merge template from this article (the other one was already removed). Thanks, all! --Icarus ^(Hi!) 04:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- - This should be for "Location and Region" but I didn't know how to start a new topic. There is no distinct cultural or regional divide within Monmouth Co. certainly not among the locals. That goes the same straight into Ocean Co. at least as far south as Toms River. In short, 195 or the Manasquan River divides nothing. That's a popular misconception that seems only to exist in the minds of people from South Jersey. If there is a distinct boundary anywhere it would be along the divide between the 609/732 area code. As far as tourists are concerned the clear break is on Long Beach Island. Even on LBI itself the northern end of the island has more of an North Jersey/NYC influence and the south end is definitely more Philly/South Jersey although people from all areas are scattered across the island. Brigantine, the first beach town south of LBI, and everything south to Cape May is clearly dominated by Philly/South Jersey. While you will see New York plates all up and down the Parkway the North Jersey/NY day-trippers and weekenders drop off abruptly at LBI. You rarely see Pennsylvania plates north of Ocean Grove. Most of the beaches between Sea Bright and Seaside Park, are dominated by people from the Monmouth of Ocean Co. Seaside Heights is a notable exception. The area between Ocean Grove and Point Pleasant is popular with a lot of families from central Bucks Co, PA and from Mercer Co, NJ - those areas with easy access to I-195 but they are outnumbered by the North Jersey/NY crowd. Likewise the towns south of Mantoloking down to Island Beach State Park draw a few travelers from Camden and Burlington Counties but most of the crowd is from Monmouth-Ocean-Middlesex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.212.126 (talk) 18:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Destinations

I'm not sure how to best maintain this list, as I don't know where to find sources for it at the moment. However, I removed a handful of towns (such as Toms River and Wall) that are most certainly not "destinations" for anybody in the sense this article seems to mean.--Dmz5 07:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map

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"Downdashore"?

No. I've never heard anyone call the shore "downdashore." All that's happened is that someone has tried to spell in a heavy New Jersey accent, in the process torturing a prepositional phrase into a noun. Probably to make people from New Jersey sound stupid. --Erik Kennedy 19:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here in NJ (I am a lifelong resident of the Garden State), the beaches are, indeed, referred to as "down the shore". If someone is planning a trip to the boardwalk in Seaside, or the beach in LBI (Long Beach island) or Sandy Hook, or any destination along the coast of NJ from Sandy Hook down to Cape May, they don't say they are going to that place specifically, they almost always say they are going "down the shore". I can't say with certainty that this phrase is unique to NJ, but I believe it is.

You're right though, people in NJ don't say "downdashore", that's how it'd be said by a NYC native. If spoken by a NJ native, it'd be closer to "downthashore" ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.176.55 (talk) 21:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Downdashore might happen if you're from NY and trying to say "I'm going down the shore" with an obnoxious Brooklynn accent. But yes, unlike in most parts of the country, we don't really go to the beach in NJ. We go down the shore.

Benny

A "Benny" has nothing to do with Philadelphia. Benny gets its name from two possible origins, one being the first letter of the following places where Bennys are from; Bayonne, Elizabeth, Newark, New York. The other origin dates back to when Jews would come down the shore. A common Jewish name was Benjamin, hence the name "Benny" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aczaplicki (talk • contribs) 02:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, BUT THE ARTICLE DOESN'T SAY THAT BENNY IS RELATED TO PHILLY. SHOOBIE IS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.175.23.68 (talk) 20:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]