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Elian Gonzalez Incident

I have had my contributions removed from both the article and the talk pages several times over the last few days and replaced with material, which was there previously, that I know to be untrue. I was there. For example: - The number of Federal personnel involved in the 'snatch of Elian Gonzalez was given by Fox News at the time as being two hundred and thirty. It was certainly not just eight as is again stated in the article - there may have been only eight with SWAT equipment who actually stormed and entered the house.

I am not sure on reflection that this article is a notable subject for inclusion under Wikipedia guidelines, it certainly appears to be used as a means of propaganda for some persons with a political agenda rather than to be acurate encyclopedic information. (ZigZag (talk) 02:46, 4 October 2008 (UTC)).[reply]

New software called "Spinspotter"

Last week's ABC Radio National program The Media Report features an interview with Todd Hermann, the Seattle-based developer of a new online application called SpinSpotter. The application uses an algorithm to detect and highlight examples of 'spin' in online news stories and news sites. Wikipedia is mentioned by analogy. I wonder who in WP is best-placed to investigate whether the application—a free download—is suitable for use in trouble-shooting POV on WP. I suspect that such software applications will soon provide us with the opportunity to revolutionise our monitoring of POV in articles. The algorithms sound as though they're sophisticated; although they're currently set up based on the code of ethics of the American Society of Professional Journalists, to what extent do these ethics differ from those of WP?

The audio stream is available for another three weeks here, and the transcript is permanent, here.

Is this the best place to post this message? Tony (talk) 06:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Policy?

Everyone is invited to discuss the Policy status of a subpage FAQ of the WP:NPOV policy. The discussion also includes what should be moved from WP:NPOV/FAQ into WP:NPOV if the FAQ is changed from a Policy to a Guideline or Essay. Dreadstar † 04:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FAQ pseudoscience discussion reopened

Moved discussion to Wikipedia talk:Neutral point of view/FAQ#FAQ pseudoscience discussion reopened

Reliable sources / Verifiability

I consider the link for phrase "published by reliable sources" in second sentence stated as Wikipedia:Verifiability is wrong. Should be Wikipedia:Reliable sources, shouldn't it? --Юрцэвіч Дзьмітры (talk) 19:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Update

See WP:Update for the September changes to all the Category:Wikipedia content policy pages (including this one) and also the most generally-used style guidelines (called, unsurprisingly, Category:General style guidelines). If anyone wants to take on the job of updating monthly content policy at WP:Update, please reply at WT:Update. Obviously, since this page is in WP-space, anyone can make any edit at any time, but regular updaters would be nice. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 18:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A sentence under the Bias section seems a little opinionated to me...

"All editors and all sources have biases (in other words, all editors and all sources have a point of view) — what matters is how we combine them to create a neutral article."

This, I think, is either opinionated or a poor assumption. Either it needs to be reworded in a way that doesn't make that assumption, or a citation is needed to prove that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.127.239.0 (talk) 07:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's your point of view. It seems obvious to me, and note that this is a policy page, not article space. Have you an idea of how you'd like it phrased? . . dave souza, talk 07:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not exactly sure, I'm a bit new to English. I was hoping someone might have a better alternative to it, though. 68.127.239.0 (talk) 08:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]