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Sources

You seem to know about them, so I did my best to cut down the material referencing the fansite. Could you check the page's Development section, and tell me if the current structure is acceptable? The Clawed One (talk)

It's alright, I understand. My frustrations here stem from the lack of primary sources for the data in question. In the series, Soul Reaver is infamous for its many deleted materials, and a lot of the information attributed to thelostworlds.net is widely known - to fansites and the fan community. But none of them are any more reliable than thelostworlds.net is. It's difficult citing information I know is correct, when I can find a reliable source to prove its correct, is my concern. ><

But it's alright, again, I get it. I was GA status, I'm gonna have to follow the rules. The Clawed One (talk)

Okay, took out the Geocites and LostWorld references. The problem now is I have two paragraphs that work well for development but are unsourced, and if I take it to a GA nomination people will bitch about that, so what do I do? I've looked for other sources, but it seems to be a case of "everyone knows it, know one knows where they heard it". Tracing the information regarding "Shifter" back to its original source has been difficult.

IASIG, as far as I can tell, is a site for aspiring audio developers, and they seem to have conducted the interview themselves. The Clawed One (talk)

Also, you wouldn't happen to know any other editors that would be able to help me with the page, do you? Because I've done a great job over the last six months or so, but in the end there's still plenty to be done. When it comes to sourcing especially, if it doesn't show up on a Google search I'm not gonna find it, so I could really use another active user who knows these sorts of things. The Clawed One (talk)

I don't even know what primary and secondary sources *are*, and frankly don't care. I don't know if you picked up on this, but I know jack-squat about Wikipedia's sourcing policies, and your response did nothing to answer my question. The Clawed One (talk)

Two things about sources. First, what would the proper templates be for sourcing a magazine? Second, for said magazine I'd be sourcing, thus far I have it's, like production code ("Official Playstation Magazine, SCED 02420"), but not the date of publication (yet). Can I still source it? The Clawed One (talk)

Just a FYI, I finally tracked down some reliable sources over "thelostworlds", and nominated the article for GA status. Wish me luck! The Clawed One (talk)

Sorry

I was just trying to be funny, I didn't think you would take it so seriously. View WP:ANI for more info.

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re: ani

Were you asking me, or the anon? I've posted, believing you were talking to me.- Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I responded with the link to the complaint on William's usertalk page. It's a lot, and I didn't want to further tangent the discussion. I have reached my boiling point with the anon, and am going to withdraw for hte weekend. People like that are just small, and I lessen myself by even interacting with them. You guys do what you want. Every time I am around him, I feel like going an extra two round in the ring at the gym, just to boil off my frustration. Anyway, have a good weekend. My attentiveness this weekend might well be spotty. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 16:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, here is a series of links, since you didn't want to check the diffs at William's page (note: I've boldened those bits where the anon was warned or blocked for harassment, incivility or gaming the system):

William, a lot of the issue seems to stem from arguments in Fitna, back in March of this year (though perhaps even earlier, as this dusty old AN/I would seem to indicate).

After the initial incidents, the anon started following my edits around, and pounced upon my educational background, calling it (and by association, me) false. He used it [ ([1] to post] to WikiProject Oxford and my own talk page, and anywhere else he could, using an IP SPA devoted to attacking me (he was blocked for this).

My understanding is that blocking a user is supposed to not only protect the article or the wiki from the blockable behavior, but also (at least attempt) to educate and reform the user, so as to prevent a revisiting of the behavior:

The anon has used brand new IP accounts to attack me and my edits.

75.142.63.108 (talk · contribs) - 3/15 ([2])

75.58.62.44 (talk · contribs) - 4/03 - 4/04 advised by Scarian to stop making uncivil posts in Fitna discussion

75.57.200.103 (talk · contribs) - 4/03 - 4/04 - Fitna, Scarlet Pimpernel

75.57.201.254 (talk · contribs) - 2/27 - 7/03 AN/I: "(groan) Dispute getting nasty..." contribution

75.58.36.51 (talk · contribs) - 4/05-4/06 incivility warning

75.58.39.148 (talk · contribs) - 4/05 - 4/06

75.58.57.10 (talk · contribs) - 4/06

75.58.34.144 (talk · contribs) - 4/06-4/07 - Wikiquette Alert: "User:Arcayne" contributions

75.57.165.180 (talk · contribs) - 4/7 - 4/10 Fitna

75.57.165.180 (talk · contribs) - 4/7 - 4/10 Fitna

75.57.186.159 (talk · contribs) - 4/11 Fitna AN/I: User:Arcayne

75.58.39.201 (talk · contribs) - 4/16

75.57.196.81 (talk · contribs) 4/16 blocked 1 week for disruptive and disputative editing by JzG

75.57.205.163 (talk · contribs) - 7/02 - 7/03

75.57.205.135 (talk · contribs) 7/03 - 7/06 blocked 48 hours by Mastcell for PA and harassment (of me)

75.57.160.195 (talk · contribs) - 8/21 - 8/28 Fitna

75.57.178.160 (talk · contribs) - 8/14 - AN/I:Arcayne RE: Civility & Good Faith (result: anon was indeed trolling)

75.57.171.204 (talk · contribs) - 8/19

75.46.31.151 (talk · contribs) - 9/30

75.57.181.83 (talk · contribs) - 7/2 Dr. Who

75.57.198.129 (talk · contribs) - 8/17-8/18 Urolagnia, Jail

75.57.201.254 (talk · contribs) - 2/27 - 7/03 AN/I: "(groan) Dispute getting nasty..." contribution

75.58.49.50 (talk · contribs) - 8/19

75.104.172.179 (talk · contribs) - 9/30 - 10/7

75.82.12.177 (talk · contribs) - 10/01 Sylar

76.202.249.62 (talk · contribs) - 10/10 - 10/12 I'm a PC

76.217.93.176 (talk · contribs) - 10/10 - 10/08 I'm a PC

76.224.68.237 (talk · contribs) - 10/07 - 10/06 I'm a PC (blocked by Bjelleklang for 3RR and edit-warring in the article)

75.3.133.232 (talk · contribs) - 10/23 - 10/24 (31-hour block by Seresin for "vandalism and incivility")

75.49.223.52 (talk · contribs) - 11/7 - 11/10 ([1, fraudulent 3RR report; advised by Wiliam M. Connelly to "get an account") Fitna

The user has been advised (or outright ordered) on at least five different occasions to start an account; the user still prefers not to, and that begs the suspicious question of 'why' the anon doesn't.

The anon has been told in no uncertain terms to stop posting incivility.

He has wasted space AN/I noticeboard's time in having filed or contributed substantially to no less than nine frivolous AN/I complaints ( there are more, but here is the rogues' gallery of them: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 - the last three of which were specifically pointed out as evidence of a vendetta by the anon) since April, and all of them are attacks towards me (maybe origination in this dusty old AN/I). Of course, the anon has pointedly avoided notifying me of any AN/I posting, presumably in the hopes that a lack of response on my part would imply guilt amd I would be blocked before even knowing of the posting.

Luvasfbr also noted that a wikiquette alert was also filed by the anon a few months ago, though I was never notified of its existence (again) and cannot find it in the archives.

He has disrupted Wikipedia with his multiple attack accounts, including going to wikiprojects where I have never made a single contribution ([3]) (he was correctly named as a troll there) and then further disrupting wikipedia by point-style adding a saccharine apology to my user page with the Oxford userbox.

He appears to be seeking personal information about my educational background by questioning it (ie, calling my earned degrees "advanced" degrees knowing that the correction of noting they are undergraduate degrees). Because of this, I am very concerned that the attacking of my educational credentials is a subtle attempt to gain personal information about me.

These attempts are additional nuking expeditions by the anonymous user to poison the well of wiki opinion by calling me a liar, an "aggressive kiss-ass and political networking gladhander, etc. For the most part, the users here have suggested the venue of DR or simply walking away. To date, the anon has 'never pursued any avenue of DR, instead following me to articles and discussions where they have never contributed before, and then only to contribute stale arguments.

It was previously suggested I simply ignore the anon's effort, which, until recently, I have. However, I should not have to overlook the continuous, bad-faith efforts by an anon who pointedly refuses to set up a public face to his edits. He has argued in the past that as a public editor, he is doing this for ideological reasons (a reasoning strongly criticized by both Ed Fitzgerald and Bzuk in the previous AN/I's) or is encountering ISP problems. However, a careful look at his contributions notes that he only switches IP addresses to avoid restrictions placed upon his editing behavior. Despite the "ISP problem", he has managed to contribute with the same ISP here for the past few days - following exactly the same pattern his previous times at AN/I. The user can maintain a single IP address - he simply chooses not to. It is in this way that he is able to escape admin scrutiny and oversight and continue his attacks largely unabated.

I feel that even though range blocks are a fairly blunt instrument, it is required here. The user has used their post-block period to do little but attack another user. As the focus of that user, I find myself a little concerned for my personal safety, as the user appears to be seeking personal info about me. I am also concerned that the user has tried five different times to have the noticeboard, never once having notified me; a clear indication that the user is attempted to have me back-door blocked. It cannot be confirmed, but is reasonable to suspect, that this renewed attempt by the anon was inspired by Edokter's retracted block of a few days ago.

In conclusion, the anon user is not interested in contributing to the encyclopedia; they are interested in attacking me and having me removed from Wikipedia. Almost all of the anon's contributions have been personal attacks. This doesn't represent the goals that we set for our editors. The anon should not be allowed to continue harassing me. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 20:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

As I pointed out to FutPerf, William's recent block was in response to the anon bringing up my educational background yet again, and calling it all some "utter lie". If you wish, I can explain it via email. I don't usually give the specifics of my background, as it can be used to track down and harass me in real life. However, I have not overstated my educational background, and though I once or twice did use it as a component in a discussion, I was properly chastised for it, and have not done so since, and certainly not in the last four months or so. I am very well aware of the Essjay matter (presumably, that of which you alluded to in AN/I), and I am scrupulously careful to not misrepresent myself. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 16:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arcayne and the 75.X.X.X editor

A new discussion has started over the issue; the specific, consise diffs you are seeking are in that discussion. Scroll down to the bottom of the ANI page for a more complete and consise explanation of the problem. I haven't added a comprehensive list (which it looks like Arcayne did above) but rather a smattering across space and time to give people the idea. I can always provide more if needed. This editor has been harassing Arcayne in edit summaries and in discussions for more than a year; they tend to avoid being a WP:MAJORDICK over it, so much of their stuff flies under the radar, since they don't swear or otherwise fly off the handle, however it is no less disruptive when viewed across months and months of editing. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 01:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

list of articles

Hey, i saw a post somewhere, seems to have gone, wondering about a list of articles edited free of duplicates. i thought of a kludge: using the wikistalk tool to compare you with, erm, you: [4]. Does that serve? 86.44.28.24 (talk) 03:15, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant, works great. I was hoping I could sort by # of edits (I like to go back and check articles I've tagged in the past, so I'd likely have only made 2 or 3 edits to them) but that's very helpful.--Crossmr (talk) 03:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crack intro

If it's been unsourced for as long as it looks, you're quite right to nominate it. But to give the article a fair chance, could you perhaps contact the relevant video games wikiproject and explain them your concerns. That would give the article more than a fair chance to be referenced. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Often articles can remain untouched for months at a time because the knowledgeable editors don't know there is a problem. If you bring it under their consideration head on, you'll have not just an indication no sources can be found, you'd be absolutely sure of it (and you'd get brownie points from game lovers for making the effort). - Mgm|^(talk) 13:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the 75.x anon's chronology

As you asked me to not post where he had, I created a subpage to address (and largely refute) the claims of the anon, though it might be a moot point at this juncture. I will also post the link in the relevant AN/I complaint. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 20:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: solution section at AN/I

I actually do possess multiple degrees, Crossmr. The PPE and the Associate degree in History . That's two. And, as both links you provided were the same link to PashaGol, might I trouble you to strike both them and the oblique refutation of my education? I do not want to have to respond to them, continuing the discussion. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 14:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now come on... I thought we were going to let this drop. Seriously, the veracity of your statements on this matter are not in dispute one way or the other, but when you make statements like this, Arcayne, it looks like you are intentionally stirring the pot. I just spent the better part of a week defending you and then you do this sort of shit? Thanks for making me look like a fool... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was not stirring the pot, Jayron. I was making sure that I am not misrepresented. Crossmr posted in an AN/I that I misrepresented multiple degrees, noting that I only had one. How did I invalidate your defense? I wasn't planning of carrying it any further. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And Crossmr, I just read your post - it did look like I said both were from the same place. Bad writing on my part, not intentional. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 04:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh, I just logged on and followed your link. Sigh again. Anyway, the best thing I can do here is nothing at all. I'm heading back to my articles - I am trying to get one up to GA and a new one on the back-burner for DYK. I don't have time for the same old nonsense. I suspect you don't either. FutPerf was right, even more than I (and yes, that does drive me a little batshit ;) ). He's gone for at least a month. Let's have a tea, a cookie and drink to our next interaction being something having to do with the encyclopedic content. Or chicks. lol - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 15:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help Desk inquiry

Hi Crossmr, I have just been going thorough the archives of the help desk and noticed your question was not really discussed or answered. I would like to offer my thoughts if I may, The only thing I can think of is if you go to my contributions (as you were) but change the tab next to namespace to (article). I do not know if that is what you were doing already, doing that will show only edits to articles, it is a mess because it shows every single edit made to every article you have edited and considering you have edited 3000+ different articles that will be a lot of pages. There really is no easy answer that I can think of but it's the best I can think at the moment!.--intraining ^{Jack In} 20:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Good to hear, I went through these tools and could not figure it out myself.--intraining ^{Jack In} 03:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Resilient Barnstar

I hereby award you a Resilient Barnstar for standing up for anonymous contributors, ensuring both sides of an argument were heard, and your desire to see Justice and fair play. — User:Poltair

Reply

Hello, I replied to your comment. — neuro^(talk) 17:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]