Talk:Death of Caylee Anthony

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Details of investigation

Some of the baffling details of the Caylee Anthony investigation:

Caylee's grandparents have organized a massive media campaign to search for the missing girl, but they feel that Caylee's mother has good reason to withhold information that would aid in that search. From the thousands of readers' comments found online, the public finds this unbelievably arrogant.
Friends of the mother recall her relationship with Caylee as a caring one, never violent. The mother was interested in photography and had taken hundreds of photos of Caylee, many of which she posted on MySpace. However, most of these she later deleted.
If the mother did not want Caylee, she showed a level of responsibility in discussing giving Caylee up for adoption to a girlfriend who could not have babies and promised loving care for the child. However, the mother later claimed that the grandmother would forbid this.
Caylee had allegedly been missing for several weeks before being reported missing to Orlando police by the grandmother.
Mother said she had dropped off Caylee with a specific babysitter at a specific apartment complex, but this was a red herring. The mother later said that when she handed over her baby to the babysitter, the babysitter gave her a script of how to explain the baby's disappearance.
Mother was photographed at the Orlando club, Fusian, partying only days after Caylee was missing.
During the first weeks the baby was gone, the mother got a tattoo that read "La Bela Vita."
Grandmother claimed that the mother's car smelled like it had a dead body in it, but later explained that it could have been old pizza. However, test results from the "Body Farm" indicate that a dead body was in the trunk, and that hair samples from the trunk were from a decomposing body, possibly Caylee's.
Grandmother said that Caylee never had a father, he passed away recently, he had started a new family by the time Caylee was born, and that it had been agreed that the father would not be involved with Caylee. However, she said she cannot remember his name, and his identity remains a mystery.
Mother said she dropped off Caylee on June 9, but the grandparents have home video footage of Caylee taken at their home around Father's Day, June 15-16.
Traces of chloroform were found in the trunk of the car used by the mother, and evidence of online searches conducted for chloroform was found on her laptop.
While dozens of volunteers from across the U.S. joined investigators in organized searches for Caylee's body in Orlando, the grandmother insisted that Caylee is alive and is likely in Texas, Mexico, or Puerto Rico. Cybersecurityczar (talk) 20:41, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions for this article

Some possible specific info-gathering ideas: Cybersecurityczar (talk) 18:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A timeline for Caylee and Casey, including "follow-the-money" details (with references).
A timeline or Gantt chart of the investigation, police procedures, and pre-trial activities.
A timeline of statements made to the media by the Anthony family and their representatives.
A timeline of actions taken by those responding to the story (i.e., the bail bondsman, the psychics, the blogger searcher, the Craigslist protesters).
A backgrounder on the Anthony family centered around Caylee and Casey.
A round-up of professional opinions about mental health issues (perhaps linked directly to what is observed).
A list of iconic images or moments (for example, the shot of Casey wearing a "Have You Seen Me?" t-shirt when she was rearrested at her parents' home)
A list of witnesses (with what they knew and when they knew it) Cybersecurityczar (talk) 19:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Information on the father, and his reaction to this situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.31.132.10 (talk) 10:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

they just found her body. i live a block away. there are helicopters and news vans EVERYwhere

Whoever wrote that the girl's remains were found: A child's remanins were found, not THE Child. Plus, the grammar is just awful. I'll clean it up and find a citation. Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. Someone deleted it while I was writing above. Thank you. Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very little info here

I come to wiki to get the full story on these cases. There is so much information missing from this story. I specifically came here to get a detailed, chronological idea of the story and all I found out was this little girl is missing. Can someone please rewrite this? I know there are much better writers out there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.227.247.206 (talk) 02:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citations desperately needed

This article desperately needs citations to reliable sources, especially where allegations are made about the parents and grandparents and what psychological conditions they might or might not have. "Numerous talk show hosts" do not count, unless they are named and the dates of the broadcasts given. Will somebody who knows more about the case please add citations, or if appropriate remove unverifiable allegations? Thanks. 71.246.213.67 (talk) 14:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Smell of body

I believe this statement is false, as no one has specificly stated that the smell is from Caylee. I agree that the evidence of the body stench needs to be noted, but as I said, no one has said the smell comes from a specific person. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk) 23:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The air and hair samples that came back from the lab matched Caylee, though. She's been confirmed dead by many news outlets here in Orlando. 70.152.218.90 (talk) 00:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

News outlets are not the same as an official legal ruling. Until such as been made, legally she's still alive. Hopefully, the legal outlook also matches real life, though I personally doubt this.--ip.address.conflict (talk) 16:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Decomp smells the same no matter what. A new wording has been added. Rob^{Not an admin} 09:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of article

Requesting that this be deleted, its nothing but heresay, rumor, and original research. Hardly any citations. This is more a gossip column than an informative article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.104.32.27 (talk) 00:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not believe that deletion is in order, but a partial, or perhaps complete rewrite is. There is plenty of heresay, and some facts are just wrong. For example, Leonard Pedilla DID NOT revoke Casey's bond, it was revoked by the Clearwater surety company. There are 431 pages of documentation released to the Orlando Sentinal via an FOIA request that should be used when deciphering facts from opinion in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.26.150.189 (talk) 04:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and delete it. Thousands of people will come to Wikipedia and search for Casey Anthony. Somebody will rewrite something within a week. 71.68.15.63 (talk) 16:38, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a deletion discussion for this article located at this page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caylee Anthony disappearance. It looks like most people are voting to keep the article, rather than to delete it. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Update: The final result of the deletion discussion was indeed to keep this article. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC))[reply]

This is not a biography

This is an article about the girl's disappearance, it is not a biography about the girl. This either needs to be rewritten as Caylee Anthony disappearance, or else redirected and merged into an article about her mother. Corvus cornix_talk 22:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Concur.--ip.address.conflict (talk) 23:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Third. --Antoshi~! ^{T | C} 20:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree -- compare with the article on Elizabeth Smart, which is not a biography either. 65.248.252.99 (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fourth. Per common practice to cover the event, not the person. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interrogation tapes

Interrogation Tapes: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/09/12/ng.tot.mom.tapes.cnn?iref=mpvideosview

Caylee was found in the trunk of her mothers car. http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5701503 --Root Beers (talk) 10:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what that link says. There is evidence that she was in the trunk, but her body has not been found. Corvus cornix_talk 20:09, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV Categorization?

Caylee Anthony is under the categories Category:Criticism_of_journalism and Category:Discrimination. Why? What part of the media reports are controversial? What part of it is discriminatory? --Antoshi~! ^{T | C} 20:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, they should probably be removed. Corvus cornix_talk 22:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Verification for new claims

Can someone verify some the the claims that the "mother claims casey is pathological liar" and "complains about the investigation in her facebook account"? --Kevin586 (talk) 22:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find a source that says this, so I removed it from the article. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 15:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2006

It is not clear what Casey Anthony did for a living from 2006 to 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.82.116.135 (talk) 11:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Her income from cheque and credit card fraud seems to have been only a small part of her total income at that time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.110.169 (talk) 11:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Charges

The charges are given variously. The charge of maltreating a child has gone and the number of charges of lying to police officers has gone up from four to five. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.237.201 (talk) 09:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Orlando Sentinel has the charge of grievious bodily harm to the child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.237.201 (talk) 13:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note that 70.121.198.67 and EricV89 are both the same vandal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.202.155 (talk) 14:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not the news

We are not the news - please wait until there is verifiable sourcing for information, and only add it if it is notable. We cannot and should not be the place for minute-by-minute breaking news updates, and should not be posting anything without adequate reliable sourcing. Tvoz/talk 22:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FORK

I think we should fork this article into three Casey Anthony, Caylee Anthony, and Caylee Anthony disappearance.--Trulexicon (talk) 06:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]