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Check this out

Cerejota, last week I finished writing my Jewish immigration to Puerto Rico article. As you know, I have written in my PR immigration series about the African, Corsican, French, German and Irish immigration and about the immigration/migration of Puerto Ricans to Hawaii and New York. The only two which I did not write were the ones of the Dominican and Chinese immigrations to PR.

The thing is that I went on to check the Chinese immigration article to see if it was up to my standards and man, what a terrible mess of an article did I find. Then I saw the message which you had left last year on the talk page (Aug. 2007) and I couldn't agree with you more.

"he narrative here seems to copy some of the elements of the excellent Chinese Cuban. However, unlike that article, this is one is total original research, it alleges the existence of a "Barrio Chino" but doesn't document it for example. The topic is certinly notable, but the article needs major cleanup. Thanks!--Cerejota 21:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)"

I told myself "Man, I'm going to take this article and rewrite it from scratch with the "Tony" touch. Well I think I've got a pretty good article and I just wanted to share it with you: Chinese immigration to Puerto Rico. Enjoy. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Cerejota, thank you for the barnstars and kind words. Great observations in the Chinese immigration to Puerto Rico!

Actions taken:

1. I have included both flags as suggested, since both at one time or another were flown in the mainland China during the immigration process.

2. I have eliminated the census figures, since those tend to create confusion and do not necessarily give us a truly accurate figure. In other words people tend to identify themselves with what ever group they please even if it is a misrepresentation on their behave.

Gracias once more. It is always a pleasure to interact and work with "Boricuas" like you. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feliz Dia de Gracia

Just dropping by to wish you un "Feliz Dia del Pavo" (smile). Tony the Marine (talk) 22:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 2008 Mumbai attacks

Hola Cerejota, como el español es tu habla nativa como yo te hablare en español, me gustaria comentarte que la columna del articulo November 2008 Mumbai attacks hay un error en la columna donde indican los fallecidos y los heridos, porque en "Spanish" pone 1 muerto y 1 herido, eso es incorrecto, se trata de un matrimonio español que resultaron heridos en el atentado y segun parece la persona que falleció se trata de una mujer y eso es imposible porque ayer salio en las noticias hablando desde España, en cambio su marido, él esta en un hospital de la India pero mejora favorablemente, por eso pienso que se deberia cambiar. son 2 heridos, todavia no ha muerto ni uno de los dos [1] --Ravave (talk) 17:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rican Irish

Cerejota, since you enjoyed my Jewish immigration article, I think that you may like the 360 degree overhaul that I did to the Irish immigration to Puerto Rico article. You see my main objective in my immigration articles is to create awareness that Puerto Ricans are not just a result of a combination of Spanish/African/Tainos as we and everybody else has always been led to believe. Even though the mixture of the three races is the basic fundation of our beginings, for the last two hundred years our people have also been mixed with the people of non-Hispanic origins, hence the surnames Miller, O'Neill, Santini etc, plus red and blond haired Puerto Ricans with all sorts of colored eyes and shades of skin. In other words, in my opinion, it would be most correct to recognize and state that Puerto Ricans are also a mixture of non-Hispanic Europeans. I hope that you enjoy it, Tony the Marine (talk) 23:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mumbai page move

I think you mistakenly placed this comment in the wrong area. Aren't you responding to a specific editor? --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 2008

Hi Cerejota, I have created a Wikiquette Alert regarding your handling of the title move proposal to November 2008 Mumbai attacks. It can be found at Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Cerejota.C2.A0.28talk.C2.A0.C2.B7_contribs.29. Please reply there and not on my talk page. Thanks. Switzpaw (talk) 21:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE:page move

The article was previoulsy moved from

I can still see myself as the creator. So I think even after moving November 2008 Mumbai attacks to 2008 Mumbai attacks, I'll still be the creator. :) KensplanetTalkContributions 03:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah thats what I meant! ;) Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 03:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re : Azam Amir Kasav

Hello, Thanks a lot. But I didn't see your vote there :) -- Bluptr (talk) 11:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Saw your vote, well the voting is going on at two places, the main article and the moron terrorist's article ... :) Bluptr (talk) 11:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page move

The current lack of consensus for the page move is frustrating. I don't know why we had the luck of having a bunch of editors reply to the proposal with boderline-laughable rationals not based on WP guideline or common sense. I think if the article had a banner on top directing editors to the discussion things would have turned out differently. We would have gotten a better representation of established WP editors. If the proposal fails I think we should just reinitiate the proposal in a few weeks. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 23:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Upon 1 January 2009, the name change is an obvious step towards accuracy. In your statement above, you implicitly agreed with those people with "borderline-laughable rationales" b/c a few weeks from now is 1 January. :-) Hopefully you will be the one who gets to make the move, possibly offering you some closure WRT to the situation. ~ Wadester16 (talk) 21:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Campaignbox Mumbai terrorism has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added new intro

Not to step on toes, but the intro at November 2008 Mumbai attacks has been edited severely over the last day, so I've added your new intro, and referenced it the best I could on short notice. Please see my post for a better explanation. Nice job on the summary though. ~ Wadester16 (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Given the huge amount of traffic this article is currently receiving, I think that you should wait for more comments before restructuring the article. It also seems unrealistic to expect other editors to not edit the article for two hours while you restructure it. As a suggestion, why don't you do the restructure in your user space, and then ask people to comment on it before changing the article? Nick-D (talk) 07:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. 2 hours is too... long. You can restructure in your own user page and then keep on quickly adding it here in intervals. Thanks, KensplanetTalkContributions 07:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Cerejota. KensplanetTalkContributions 07:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks also for your message. I admire your boldness and hope the restructure goes well - the structure you've proposed looks good. Nick-D (talk) 09:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Review Gomez

I just want to clarify, first, yes, Gomez has used this IP address, but so have others. I'm not Gomez, yes I know him and it's complicated to explain, but I do believe in him. I will honor your requests to back off, but feel it's unfair that misinformation is put out there. As an example, and I will only discuss it here with you to abide by your wishes, Ryūlóng claims Jerry Avenaim has 12 sources. Let's look at them, 1) Lexar, Gomez is an original Lexar Elite Photographer, just like Avenaim. 2) Another source Ryūlóng claims is an article written by Alice Miller, editor of Studio Photography. Same writer, same editor wrote an article on Gomez at least a year before, it's listed on the links provide on his sources page. 3) Avenaim states in the second AfD that he and Gomez spoke together at the Photo Imaging Design Expo, which is one of the sources on his Wiki page that Ryūlóng claims. 4) Jason Schneider is quoted as two of those sources for articles that appeared in Shutterbug and Photo District News. Gomez's article in Leica World News was written by Jason Schneider, plus there is a link on the sources page of Gomez' site that is from PDN (Photo District News) on his Calumet 3-country tour last year. 5) Also, the Zugaphoto.tv DVD that is one of Avenaim's sources, Gomez is one of the 12 "stars" in that video, this was never mentioned before. [2] and comments from the director at the bottom, [3] Avenaim is sponsored by the MAC Group, Mamiya of America Corporation, and was sponsored by Olympus as well as Lexar, also listed as sources--Gomez got that sponsorhip along with the Lexar and Olympus for Avenaim. Gomez even got the story by Miller for Studio/Cygnus for Avenaim while Gomez was a contributing writer/editor for that publication. Finally, Ryūlóng claims there was no first AfD. Totally wrong. I give you this information to clarify and mainly that's what I've been doing. Again, I will honor your wishes and focus on other Wikipedia articles and leave this alone. I thank you for placing it in deletion review and for being unbaised and fair. I just wish the facts would get straight. Here is one more link no one has discussed, New York Times (St. Martin's Press, Harper Collins, Avon) Bestselling Author, Lisa Kleypas on Gomez, [4] Here is the master list of references, [5] Thanks again, your words are understood clearly and I hope by posting on your talk page you will not take that as a negative as I plan on participating on Wikipedia more in other areas. --72.191.15.133 (talk) 08:38, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Update. Just wanted to keep you posted, as I do want to participate in future editing here on Wiki and do not want to get banned. I was commented on my talk page [6] by Ryūlóng so I responded in what I believe to be a tactful response. I wanted to call your attention to it because of what is involved in the conversation and new source links. Again, I thank you for your fairness and hope you become an admin someday here as Wiki needs people like you. --72.191.15.133 (talk) 18:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stay calm

Hi Cerejota: I know the discussion over at WT:WTA is frustrating at times, because we all have strong views on the subject. Thus far, however, it has been a really collegial and interesting discussion, and I hope that it continues to stay civil. Edit summaries like "it's NPOV, stupid" can give the wrong impression, even if no incivility is meant. Sadly, we have to be extra careful to keep our emotions directed at the subject and the arguments, not each other.

Ray (talk) 15:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ray, its a play on "it's the economy, stupid" mean in a light-hearted way! ;) --Cerejota (talk) 15:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. That wasn't clear from the summary. Cheers, Ray (talk) 15:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]