User talk:63.226.23.69

krav maga

Dear Pundit I have noticed you have made several undo revisions to the Krav Maga page of Wikipedia. I wish to take point on a single statement you made. In one of your last revisions your reason for doing so was that the associations listed were not credible (or something to that affect). I don't mean to misquote you, I just cannot recall exactly what you said. At any rate, have you done any research into Itay Gil and Moshe Katz at all? Itay is THE most sought after KM trainer in Israel for his tactics. He is currently the chief instructor for Israel's Sayeret Duvdevan and Law Enforcement all around the globe seek him out! Moshe is his highest ranked student who teaches at Universities all over the US. I would hardly call being invited to teach KM at MIT & Harvard an insignificant contribution to Krav Maga.... Anyway, I do understand your point of concern, however, I think if you do the research you will see Israeli Krav International, while small is extremely influential in the world of Krav Maga.

63.226.23.69 (talk) 15:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)Cottonwood-Combat63.226.23.69 (talk) 15:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm replying here as you edit from an IP (please, register! It is free and useful). I don't think anyone can seriously claim that their instructor is THE most sought after KM trainer - mainly because it is just impossible to research. Also, as it happens, I practiced martial arts at Harvard - you don't need to be invited there, you just set up a student club and teach. But the reason for not listing IKI is much simpler: its website is insignificant, has a low pagerank and brings few independent links. That's all. Pundit|utter 07:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for replying. It's interesting that you would mention martial arts training at Harvard, hmmm. Moshe was indeed invited; by the Hillel. I have researched this and not many instructors have been invited. Perhaps they are not as well known....? I do realize this not an official invitation by the University itself and really did not intend to imply such, I should have chosen my words more carefully. It is well known that Itay is the most recognize tactics instructor in Israel. Go there and ask anyone in any Krav Maga school and they will recognize his name. Again, perhaps I should've used different words. I know many Israeli Kravists who did not know who Haim Gidon was when I asked and his is the site to which the page refers for certifications. This is a major injustice to those who use this site for accurate reference. I don't mean to sound trite concerning all of this, but it is obvious someone/people from (a) specific organization(s) is manipulating the available information. Please, before dismissing my reply, do some research by contacting people from various Israeli organizations to see if Itay and Moshe are legitimate. Also, how can one say an organization is not legit based solely on page hits? When Krav Maga first came to the US it's internet presence was dismal at best. Only because of their continued efforts in developing their marketing have they become as renowned as they are. Please do not take my comments personally, I just believe there is bias here which needs to be addressed.

December 2008

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Anyway, you havent shown a single reliable source that Itay Gil has anything to do with any part of the IDF, let alone instruction of commando units. That is why I keep reverting it. Show me something from someone not affiliated with Gil. isayeret.com for example has no mention of him for the duvdavan.

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