Talk:John Eder

Picture

If anyone has a picture of him, go ahead and add it. --Contrib 17:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC) There's a good picture here but is it fair use? [1]

NPOV and PR language

I've knocked out some language that has a definite POV and some that was taken wholesale from Eder & Green Party PR and newspaper articles; some of it was in copyrighted material. None of it was sourced. Quotes by Dean Myerson on how cool it all was or on his swearing-in ceremony didn't seem necessary or appropriate to a short biographical article about a politician, and phrases like "great organizations" are definitely inappropriate, being value judgements. This language should NOT be reintroduced to the article. If anyone knows some basic biographical information, like date and place of birth, age, occupation (I think Eder's a house painter?), etc., that would be useful and appropriate. The article still needs work, and really, campaign info doesn't seem all that pertinent to Eder's overall life and influence in politics. Deirdre 28 June 2005 21:46 (UTC)

There's more. I marked a NPOV dispute sign over one section in particular. 69.207.229.129 03:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

As of February 2008, this article is still havily baised. I would almost dare to add a notability tag to this article. User:AsukaSeagull —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.210.73.160 (talk) 04:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed the tag because of misuse. Dispute guidelines necessitate that one be more helpful/specific about resolving an issue and allowing the possibility of finally removing the neutrality dispute tag through consensus.

The article has undergone more sourcing since the tag was placed in March. Please see if the changes satisfy concerns and if not please explain why you feel it still needs attention.

To simply place the tag on the article indefinitely without giving specific/useful suggestions as to how to improve the article, is a spurious use of the tag that places a cloud over other peoples good work.

Please contribute to good community by being unambiguous and detailing line for line from the article the "heavily biased" sections you perceive to still exist and make constructive suggestions that contribute to a resolution.

Please do check yourself to see if your intent is to put in the necessary work to contribute to a good article. If you find you cannot soundly argue for reapplying the tag, offering a reasonable chance to address your concerns, then please consider that you may not be in a position to use the tag correctly at this time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.179.155 (talk) 04:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Bio

Thanks to whoever it was who wrote the bio; we still need a photo, though. Perhaps the Maine Greens can let us use one for public domain. I'll look into it. Deirdre 21:11, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

found one--now I just have to figure out how to post it properly.... Deirdre 19:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

2010 Governor's race speculation

While the Phoenix does mention John Eder as a possible candidate it also says the party is desperate for a candidate which is not true. Lynne Williams, Chair of the Maine Green Independent Party, has already announced that she intends to run for Governor of Maine in 2010 [2]. With Williams running it is highly unlikely Eder will run for Governor considering his stature in the party he surely was consulted. Also there have only been two contested primaries in the history of the party for any office let alone governor. Any Green running in Maine for Governor also needs Clean Election financing (to be competitive) and with two candidates in the race it would make it difficult to collect the 3,250 $5 contributions required to receive clean election funds. Lastly when you read what it says in the articles three lines about John Eder it is apparent that the author has little knowledge of the party and is mentioning Eder because he is arguablly the highest profile green in the state. In the three lines about Eder and the Greens there are two incorrect statements. Here is what it says

Link to article [* http://thephoenix.com/Portland/News/72879-We-sing-we-dance-we-steal-things/] "JOHN EDER of Portland is the only Green Independent ever elected to the Legislature.

MAJOR DRAWBACK He's also the only Green to fail to win re-election. Still, the party is desperate for a candidate."

1) the greens are desperate for a candidate (already have one and election is still almost a year away)

2) Eder's "also the only Green to fail to win re-election" (not true. While eder is the only green ever elected to the state house, and is the only green state rep. (incumbent) to not win re-election he is far from the only Green office holder in Maine to not be re-elected. This is easily confirmed by going to the national Green Parties wegbsite gp.org and checking election results for Maine in the parties election database (link to database on the elections page).

For these reasons and the speculative nature of the article I am removing info about possible run for Governor Highground79 (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I've removed the Eder speculation totally and added a link to Lynne Williams, an article I've started.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 00:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

The question is one of speculation and the article speculates an Eder run which in turn supports the statement. The author of the article deals in opinion and speculation. Besides which, you jump to conclusions. Until the democratic process of a primary is concluded in June of 2010, there is no one Green candidate. A "candidate" is one who has garnered the nomination by a plurality of votes from registered greens. There is still ample time for other candidates to step forward and unless Eder puts the speculation to rest or the time to declare a candidacy with the Secretary of State has passed, speculation remains. This is a published article from a Maine pundit who is speculating on and Eder run for Governor. That clearly counts as speculation which makes the statement true. It will be restored.