Talk:Helen Tracy Lowe-Porter
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This article appears to have been written by someone who wishes to promote the work of John E Woods. The same hand was (before I modified it) at work in the article on Mann's Doctor Faustus. I have there removed the unreferenced expressions of opinion, which had remained for several months despite a clear challenge in the discussion page. In the present article I have posted requests for citations on the contents of statements which appear to be statements of editor opinion without reference. As this article is about H T Porter Lowe (d 1963) the work of John E Woods, whose translations belong to a later generation, cannot have any bearing except in a posthumous comparison, which would require citation for reference in wikipedia. Eebahgum 10:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
This article has been thoroughly cleaned up now (by me and others) and seems alright. It's a pity we don't have more information about the life of Lowe-Porter herself. She wrote a little autobiography which I read in the 1960s, but I can't find a trace of it anymore. The translator's role is not a glamorous one.... [Karl Marling, March 8, 2008.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.229.139.9 (talk) 22:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
One of the best translators?
Reading Thomas Mann in German I do not know her translations. But it seems quite speculative to tribute her with the popularity of a Nobel Prize winning author. This and the claim that she is one of the best translators strongly need to be referenced or I will delete them. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Deleted it now. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 08:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
If you don't know her translations, Gunnar, why do you offer an opinion? Jean Cocteau said: "Thomas Mann and Proust were lucky in their translators." Sie scheinen ein bisschen zu spinnen.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.241.70 (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I do not state an opinion on her capabilities as a translator - the article did and did so without giving a reference. But that was the less important of my two problems. If anyone can give a reference that she is considered a great translator - feel free to add it, this is possible but not sourced yet.
- But the article also said that Thomas Mann's popularity in the U.S. was mainly due to her. This statement even more strongly needs a major reference. Thomas Mann has won the Nobel Prize and is an influential writer in his own right. I will not accept any unreferenced claim that his standing in the U.S. was only made possible or was considerably improved my Ms. Lowe-Porter. This is how WP works: If you add an unreferenced statement to an article and someone else doubts it, it is going to be removed. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 09:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the lesson, Gunnar. It was deeply appreciated.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.241.70 (talk) 22:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
NPOV
As far as I am concerned, the article has a NPOV now. So the POV tag can be removed. Any disagreements? Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 07:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Gunnar, you're a prince! That word could be spelled with five letters though....
Error over error . . .
I'm glad to see that someone corrected the error in Buck's list of Lowe-Porter's errors (namely a "postage stamp" in Joseph and his Brothers, of all places). That screamed to high heaven! Now it's in Death in Venice - at any rate more plausibly.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.27.70 (talk) 23:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
To the Wikipedia Editors
Every syllable in this article has been firmly grounded in a citation now (for several months), so you might at last remove the "This-article-needs-additional-citations-for-verification" tag.
Thanks.
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