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wikipedia, please let someone else besides this nyttend person edit this page. they are making edits that are right on principal and wrong in reality. thanks.

Sandusky County

Contrary to what various IPs seem to think, I'm making edits that are right in reality. One IP references this county map to say that it doesn't extend into Sandusky County. However, if you look carefully, you'll see that there is a small bit of the southeastern extension that crosses the county line — there's absolutely no line on the map to show where the county line goes through the village, unlike with the obvious line for Green Springs in the southern part of the county. Check, too, the Census Bureau map that I'm about to add. Nyttend (talk) 04:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Contrary to what the online US Census map shows, Elmore is not recognized as part of Sandusky county.  While your
    edits may be well intended, they are not accurate.  Please discontinue making these edits claiming Elmore is in
    Sandusky county.71.72.211.186 (talk) 19:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is a reliable source for such a statement? Your own map shows it in both counties (unless you're going to say that Bellevue and Green Springs aren't also in Sandusky County), and the Census Bureau is a highly reliable source. Nyttend (talk) 20:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again, look at the map- the highlighted areas (not white) are located in Sandusky County. You can also see Genoa is on the map, but is located in Ottawa County as well. The Sandusky County website lists those cities/towns/villages recognized as belonging to Sandusky County. Website is located here: http://www.sandusky-county.org. Also, Green Springs is recognized as belonging to Seneca County: http://www.senecacounty.com/. 71.72.211.186 (talk) 01:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but there is a small highlighted area: see the dotted lines under the words "Turnpike Exit 81" — and more importantly, we have an unambiguous bit. Wikipedia relies heavily on the Census Bureau — are you saying that the Census Bureau is incorrect here? You will need to provide something that addresses the Census Bureau's finding that it's in two counties, rather than a small locally-produced map that's not quite as clear or a page that lists communities — as you may see, the Census Bureau map shows only a tiny portion within the county, in which I'd guess virtually nobody lives, so the existence of the village within the county really isn't very significant to Sandusky County. Remember: an argument from silence isn't definitive. Nyttend (talk) 01:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Elmore is recognized as being part of Ottawa County, and NOT Sandusky. What part of this do you not understand? Putting a town into two counties only causes confusion. You seem to admit yourself that the tiny portion isn't significant to Sandusky County. Please refrain from making edits putting Elmore into Sandusky county.71.72.211.186 (talk) 02:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't look at me for causing confusion: if it's confusing to have it in two counties, talk to the people in Bellevue, Ohio, which is in four. It really is in multiple counties, and it is so recognised by the Census Bureau (among others). It's rather insignificant, to be sure, but because it really is there, it's wrong to deny that it's not. Nyttend (talk) 02:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Nyttend that Elmore lies in two counties. The Census Bureau's 2007 Subcounty population estimates [1] confirms that Elmore extends into Sandusky County. Although the portion in Sandusky County is extremely small, that is the format that has been used throughout Wikipedia on its U.S. City and town pages. --Acntx (talk) 16:18, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portage River

Contrary to what the user Nyttend says, the Portage River runs through Elmore. I've made multiple attempts to add this with correction sourcing, but this user insists on removing it and threatens to block anyone that attempts to do so. Dru79 (talk) 23:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the Portage River, Sugar Creek clearly crosses the map that Nyttend accepts as accurate. Sugar Creek, by the way, also contains water. Not as much as the Portage River which runs through town, but water none-the-less. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.201.191 (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elmore Car

This is another example of user Nyttend going on a power trip. Perhaps the placement of the Elmore Car was wrong, or the fact that it was not supported by sufficient documentation. Frankly, even if it was, Nyttend almost certainly wouldn't allow it as it seems that he/she has decided that he/she is the only one capable of edits to this page... for a village he/she clearly is unfamiliar with beyond that which can be found in census data.

I find it offensive to the community to dismiss an edit about the Elmore car as "silliness." It's silliness to suggest our town has no water when accepted maps show a creek running through the town limits (not to mention the Portage River). The Elmore Car was a significant item in early car manufacturing history. There is documented evidence which clearly states that. I don't know how to edit or link in a wikipedia accepted format. Neither do most of the people who would like to update this page. But Nyttend does. And because he/she knows how to use and abuse the wikipedia editing rules, the Elmore, Ohio page will not only be inaccurate, but the significant contributions of the community will be dismissively mocked as well.

If I'm not mistaken, user Dru79's mother is the town librarian. Perhaps Nyttend can give her a call if he/she doesn't believe this stuff.

Kudos to Nyttend for following a dazzling wikipedia protocol to prevent the display of factual information and for using this forum to poke fun at our community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.201.191 (talk) 06:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]