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OK, folks, for all those people like myself who must insist that SMiLE is a Beach Boys album rather than a Brian Wilson one, I have finally given the Beach Boys version its own article, with links to info on Brian Wilson's version. I hope this ends all those arguements. 22:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

How do you figure SMiLE is a Beach Boys album when it was never released be the Beach Boys? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.40.63.122 (talk) 13:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is about the unfinished album, sort of about the "entity" that is Smile. Dozens of other unfinished albums have their own page, don't you think Smile, possibly the most famous unfinished album of all time, deserves its own article? 64.53.37.3 (talk) 02:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But SMiLE is no longer unfinised. It was completed and released alone by Brian. The earilar attempt as a Beach Boys album and the finshed version are one and the same--It's all SMiLE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.40.63.122 (talk) 05:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, perhaps at one time SMiLE would have been a Beach Boys album, but now it most certainly is a Brian Wilson album since it was released by him alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.40.63.122 (talk) 05:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are looking for Smile (Brian Wilson album). MookieZ (talk) 18:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't you undersatnd, they are the same thing. SMiLE is SMiLE. It began as a Beach Boys album, was not finsihed. Then Brian completed and rerecorded SMiLE releaseing The same album on his own--same songs same subject matter just in its finished version.

There is no longer an unfinished SMiLE. There are recordings from SMiLE's first attempt from the late sixties. But the album SMiLE is finished as of 2004 by the very man who first conceived it, so therefore no longer can be called "the greatest album never released."

I'm sorry, but there is still an unfinished Smile album. This article is about the lost Beach Boys album. Brian may have finished the Smile project in 2004, but that's Smile by Brian Wilson. Smile is also a lost Beach Boys album - several recordings were held and the album was never finished. Brian brought the project back to life but did not finish the Beach Boys' album, he re-recorded and reworked it from scratch.
I'm not saying this because I'm some purist who dislikes Brian Wilson Presents Smile - it's a wonderful album, but it is a Brian Wilson album. Not the lost Beach Boys album. There is much more to the puzzle that was lost that aren't on Brian's finished versions of the songs and album.

No, once again I am certain you are wrong. The SMiLE sessions recorded in the late sixties are SMiLE's first attempt. Brain was unable, for one reason or another, to complete this album back then and therefore shelved it. In 2004 when he decided to return to and finished SMiLE he rebuilt the album with the exact same material from before and almost nothing from the original sessions is left off the finished 2004 product. I can only think of one thing, the "Air" instramental, but that part of the "Elements" in SMiLE is now being represented by "Wind Chimes". Do you think Brian thinks this isn't the completed album he began in the sixties? Do you think that he and the surviving Beach Boys are going to "finish" this "lost album" one day and release virtually the same thing that Brian released in 2004? That would go over well, right? 

:: They are the same thing but at the same thing they aren't the same thing. My biggest point is that putting both articles together would result in a very, very long mess of an article. I think that both the lost Beach Boys album AND the Brian Wilson album deserve their own articles because of this. 64.53.37.3 (talk) 07:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this one deserves a separate article. 'Smile' may have been 'finished', but that doesn't mean that there still isn't an 'unfinished' version, which some people might be just as interested in as the 'finished' version.... Miscreant (talk) 12:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure let them have separate articles, but they are in a sections BUT THEY ARE THE SAME THING just in different forms. One is the completed form and the other is the incomplete form. --124.40.63.122 (talk) 15:17, 11 February 2009 (UTC) Lets say I start writing a book and abandon it halfway through. Then years latter I start the book over again and finish it. It's not a book (same idea, same premise, same title, same subject matter) it's just that I got it right the second time around. JUST like Brian and his SMiLE[reply]

Missing text?

"Although his father and members of the group were reportedly concerned about his use of drugs,."

Not a complete sentence. TheHYPO (talk) 05:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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