Talk:2009 in country music

Australian chart positions

The Australian country chart only has 30 positions, unlike the US and CAN charts which are both 60. I think maybe we should limit the "major" Australian country hits to just Top 10 since it's a smaller chart. I'm also thinking of cutting back US and CAN to just Top 20 since 25 is a little odd. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 01:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like your idea. Langdon (talk) 01:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)i7114080[reply]

Okay, but let's not remove anything until we see what others think of the idea. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 01:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reducing to top 20 hits in Canada and US and top 10 hits in Australia should work. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 01:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, there doesn't seem to be any objection, so I'm cutting back all the years in country music pages to just Top 20 US/CAN, and this page will also be T10 only for Australia. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australian positions again

Okay, I finally did some research and I'm a little leery of the NFS Publicity site. Apparently they were on a users.bigpond.com website (i.e., a free website hosted by an ISP) until recently. Furthermore, I can't find a shred of information on this company, which should be a big red flag. Furthermore, I can't find any evidence of IFPI recognizing this as an official chart, as opposed to, say, Billboard, Radio & Records or even Mediabase or Music Row. Even the Country Music Association of Australia doesn't acknowledge the charts, just the ARIA country albums charts. (As to why ARIA would have a country albums charts but not a singles one, I don't know.) Therefore, since this chart seems not to be a notable one, I'm thinking of removing the positions, but I'd like to view others' opinions first. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I agree with the big red flag (although it's more like BIG RED FLAG to me). If no official/trustworthy sources back this chart up, how can it be legitimate? SKS2K6 (talk) 18:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

True. I haven't even seen this chart cited in news articles pertaining to the singers, for crying out loud. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this even in dispute? If what you say is true, then this is worthless data. Purge purge purge. DS (talk) 18:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I7114080/Langdon was the one who started adding the AUS positions. This user seems to be a bit more skeptical of my actions, so I figured a discussion was in order. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 19:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only 22 incoming links to the site, and none of them look particularly exciting. Apparently non-notable. On a second level, even if we found the site to be notable within Australia, I have to question the merits of a genre-specific chart in such a small market. I would probably argue against inclusion unless someone could demonstrate that the Australian country music market was significant in comparison to the worldwide market for country music.—Kww(talk) 19:29, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. That might explain why I can't find anything in the way of sources when it comes to most of these country acts. Sorry, Jetty Road, guess you don't get an article after all. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 19:33, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually kind of a shame: my sole Australian country music CD is "It's Hard When You're Ugly" by the Fargone Beauties. No article on them, either, even though one might be justifiable today ... there seems to be a number of sources on them now. They've got a good website up with a pretty interesting cover of Hey Joe on it.—Kww(talk) 20:40, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let's delete it! Since there is nothing to prove the importance of the chart, we should not include it. Langdon (talk) 01:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080[reply]

Hey wait a minute! Wasn't it a good idea in the first place to show the Australian chart information? I just think that it was unnecessary to delete it. Additionally, i think that we should add the top 25 songs, and not just the top 20 songs. Adding just the top 20 songs sounds pretty stupid to me. User:Ryanbstevens —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

It was a good idea in theory to include Australian positions, but at the time I didn't realize that the chart we were using was not a reputable chart. Billboard and Radio & Records are easily verified, and their notability isn't in question. The Aussie country chart could be published in some guy's basement for all we know. (I should also note that despite Jetty Road having the #2 single on that chart, I can't find a single reliable source for the band.) Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 04:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]