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Valentine's Day in Asia

七夕 is qī xī not qi xi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cypherpunks3 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have read about how women in Japan feel compelled to give Valentine's day gifts to co-workers, but not about what the women do in China or Korea. Is this a case of "lumping all the East Asians" together, or is there some kind of reference we can all read about? -- A girl from Hong Kong who was never pressured about giving gifts to boys for Valentine's Day. (tessc (talk) 19:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I have reworded this section. Hopefully its clearer. --tessc (talk) 20:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Valentine's Day is also Prevelent in loving u & in India and its Mostly Celebrated in major Cities,On the day young boys and girls could be seen exchanging flowers and Choclates. Shops Could be seen adorned in Red "The color of Love" seling Valtentines Day Gifts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.142.105.177 (talk) 20:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


In Cambodia Valentine's Day is called "Tngai Bun Songsaa" or "Significant Other Day". They have largely embraced the Western excesses and imagery including cupid, hearts, and the sale of cheap roses on February 14. CrossingCambodia (talk) 21:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

South America

There are varying opinions as to the origin of Valentine's Day. Some experts state that it originated from St. Valentine, a Roman who was martyred for refusing to give up Christianity. He died on February 14, 269 A.D., the same day that had been devoted to love lotteries. Legend also says that St. Valentine left a farewell note for the jailer's daughter, who had become his friend, and signed it "From Your Valentine". Other aspects of the story say that Saint Valentine served as a priest at the temple during the reign of Emperor Claudius. Claudius then had Valentine jailed for defying him. In 496 A.D. Pope Gelasius set aside February 14 to honour St. Valentine.

Wrote by Newaz Sharif (BCA) 

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.67.230 (talk) 16:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Valentine's day is also celebrated in all of South America. In the article it says it's a holiday celebrated in North america and Erurope which is wrong because you don't mention South America (only in a few lines at the end of the article) which happens to occupy a big part of planet earth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.209.185.240 (talk) 06:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Linked fron 4chan

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"See also: Sexual Intercourse"

This struck me as odd. Why is sexual intercourse, a seemingly biological topic, associated so closely with Valentine's Day? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.125.253 (talk) 21:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

USA category? why?

Why is there an USA holiday category at the bottom, i thought this is the english wikipedia, common to any country that speaks english; not just US. Mile92 (talk) 00:24, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Categories are invented so that listmakers can feel more important. There's nothing in it beyond that. Useful categories would function as indices: judge how useful the categories you see would be as indices.--Wetman (talk) 05:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the christans and some other faiths believ valenines day wasstarted by saint valentine , he was put in jail for love. this king didn't want enyone to get married because, he was going to smake the men go to war and didn't want them to be to attched to the wife. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.180.110.136 (talk) 01:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous Valentines

I'm surprised there is nothing on the tradition of sending a present anonymously on Valentines day as a 'secret admirer', which I always thought was the original purpose of the day and is certainly a known tradition in the UK. The idea is that it is an accepted day upon which you can send a gift to a girl who will then (the thinking goes) be intruiged because it is anonymous, which then would hopefully ensnare them. The practice of people who are already in an established relationship is generally viewed as a corruption or commercialisation of this tradition. I'm sure this is widespread to warrant a section. Opinions? Caspar esq. (talk) 17:43, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The reason that there's not much on the UK custom is because Valentine's day has always been a Christian day, originally a reminder of St.Valentine's final act of sending a letter to his betrothed before being beaten with clubs and beheaded by the Romans for not submitting to the emperor's wishes. Valentine declared his everlasting love to her and signed it "from your Valentine" before he was beaten and beheaded by the executioners. Local commercial traditions like the UK custom described are local variations, and nothing to do with the original Christian message. Sort of like chocolate eggs & bunnies at Easter, and decorating trees at Christmas. Russia is trying to change Valentine's Day into a non-Christian event called the "Day of Family, Love and Fidelity". Bushcutter (talk) 01:43, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is really interesting; I would be interested to know more about the origins of the UK interpretation as my understanding is close to that of Caspar's. At school, girls used to come in with presents from their parents (usually Mother), and it is clear that 'Valentines Day' in the UK is now predominantly the practice, or the vehicle, for known lovers or partners to offer gifts to one another, without any sense of intrigue or secrecy. Xzrox (talk) 10:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

percentage purchased by women

Re: Insufficient cited source[4] in this line: "The association estimates that women purchase approximately 85 percent of all valentines.[4]" This is not written anywhere in the source. (Source[4] is: http://pressroom.americangreetings.com/archives/val08/valbiz08.html.) I don't have edit access yet; with Valentines Day fast approaching, I respectfully request that the line be removed as soon as possible until a sufficient source is found.Slmnlln (talk) 01:09, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source says that men spend double as much as women. Men's average 165$ against women's 85$. I'm removing the percentage and putting that. If someone has a source for exact percentage then please add it. --Enric Naval (talk) 02:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the line mentioned above was in the introduction? It is repeated further down the page under the heading Modern Times and the page is now contradicting itself. I don't have edit access either. Greetings Manu.eder (talk) 19:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I hadn't noticed that the sentence appeared twice on the article. I fixed it now. --Enric Naval (talk) 23:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The two statements are not necessarily inconsistent: perhaps women buy more cards (which are fairly cheap), but men spend more in total when one takes into consideration higher-priced items such as candy, flowers, tickets for romantic evenings at the bowling alley, etc., etc. I agree, however, that the two statements are not obviously consistent, either, and the whole matter needs revision and clarification to avoid confusion. Alas, I don't have a clue what the actual answer is. Drhoehl (talk) 20:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Argentina

In Argentina february the 14th is not celebrated as the article suggests, it is later on in the year. The blurb on South America is quite generalised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.170.90.3 (talk) 06:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I searched on google news[1], and newspapers from Argentina all seem to say that San Valentin is celebrated on 14 February [2][3] --Enric Naval (talk) 16:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Needs editing

That second paragraph is a duplicate of the sentence at the end of the first paragraph. I'd fix it myself but since the article is locked.... 68.205.68.57 (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -- OlEnglish (talk) 03:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake in intro

Should read "men on average...", not "men in average...". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.11.43 (talk) 07:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the last sentence of the third paragraph of the introduction should read "men spend on average twice" or "men spend an average of twice" and not "men spend in average." Grammatically, this does not make sense. --Therumble (talk) 20:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Holiday vs. Holy Day

It may be a Holy Day, but it is not a holiday for all and I think this should be clarified. Xzrox (talk) 10:26, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is both a religious holy day and a cultural holiday celebrated across the globe.--Cúchullain t/c 23:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Has anyone any evience that this is an actual holiday anywhere in the world? A celebration, yes, but a holiday? CS46 14:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Valentines day is not a holiday day by any form of the definition. It is not a holy day(just because it is named after a saint does not make it holy) it is not a day you are exempt from work, or on vacation. If it is anything it's a observance day (no different then Sweetest Day) ~ Jklin (T) 16:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

INDIA

In India, the right-wing forces spearheaded by the BJP-RSS (who worship Hitler) and their frontal groups like Shri Ram Sena (Ram's army) believe that Valentine's Day celebration of love is an assault on indian-hindu culture which celebrates the KAMASUTRA! This Valentine's Day, in a move that is meant to leave these fascists red-faced, a campaign is on to gift them with carton loads of pink chaddis! A "consortium of pub-going, loose and forward women", still seething under their moral policing and hectoring, will collect chaddis (underwears) from across the country and courier them to the Sri Rama Sena's Bangalore office by V-Day. This is the revenge of the urban woman, 'pink undergarment' her symbol of annoyance. The [4]PINK CHADDI CAMPAIGN was kicked off on Febraury 5 to protest the Sena's warning against celebrating Valentine's Day and the attacks on women in Mangalore. Though it started off in the e-world among members of a social networking group, it has now taken a life of its own and is out on the streets. The group has been aptly named 'the consortium of pubgoing, loose and forward women' because that is how Sene wants to project them. The campaigners do not specify if the undergarment should be new, but people interested can drop 'pink chaddis' at the collection box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willyindia (talk • contribs) 17:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

sources at google news [5] Please pick a couple of the best sources, and then be bold and add it yourself to the article (under Valentine's_Day#Asia, add a paragraph about India with two sentences, three at most, it will probably be shortened later by other editors. If possible, make first a couple of sentences about how India is celebrated normally in the India, for reasons of balance of the article) --Enric Naval (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Sepandarmazgan

If you can read the Iranian wikipedia reference supplied it states that Sepandarmazgan has nothing to do with it. http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%BE%D9%86%D8%AF%DA%AF%D8%A7%D9%86 Reargun (talk) 12:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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