Talk:Real robot
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We don't need to summarize the Eva units on this page, because we already have an Evangelion page. Better to just link it. 192.91.173.42 16:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
"Real" Robots
I think we need to explicitly state somewhere in the article that "Real Robot" doesn't mean that the robots are literally designs that would be functional and practical in real life, since very few "Real Robots" would be. 71.203.209.0 00:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think that the description of what a real robot is, "The genre contains robots that are powered by conventional power sources and weapons that could be explained by real world science, and these robots used ranged weapons(especially guns and cannons) and speed to survive battle situations.", is partially inaccurate -- while real-world power sources and weapons may show up, and most real robot shows probably use technology that would fall within the unfortunately fuzzy boundaries of "hard sci-fi", they don't all (Gundam, IIRC, relies on Helium-3 fusion working differently than it does in the real world), and a better qualification is, as the Super Robot page notes, "a mecha portrayed as a relatively common item, used by military organizations in the same manner as tanks or aircraft." 76.99.183.84 (talk) 20:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. While Super Robots are usually more or less Super Heroes, Real Robots fill military roles. If we use the definition "explained by in-universe science", Mazinger Z would also be a Real Robot. We get to know about the alloy it uses and its power source, it's built by a scientist etc., yet no one would argue against it being purely a Super Robot (unless, of course, they are trying to stir up a discussion or something). It's still not a definition you can use and apply on any series or game and easily see what fits where, but it's the best definition I've seen. --193.11.218.215 (talk) 01:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- The Gundam He3 fusion works exactly like the real world Muon catalysis fusion does, only it is catalyzed by a fictional particle that is longer live than the Muon. It is perfectly matching with Hard sci-fi on the terms of having a logical reasoning to solve problems. The soft part is that most of the reasoning for using giant robots in Real Robot series are not all that logical.(Like in Gundam, the MS's AMBAC is for space use, yet you see a lot of MS are used on Earth) MythSearchertalk 08:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
List of Real Robot shows
I'm not knowledgable enough to start such a list, but the entry for Super Robot has a list, and I think this entry should have one too! - Eyeresist 03:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- Update: I have started a list of Real Robot shows in the article. Please add anything appropriate. - Eyeresist 06:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed Front Mission from the list but Battletech gets the OK? Big bobba the god 13:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Would someone ref the list? and also, the list is quite redundant, can we just list the notable series instead of every single anime and game? MythSearchertalk 08:26, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Full Metal Panic
Only some of the robots are "real robots". While it is more militaristic than Gigantor and the likes, the Arbalest is still in many ways a super robot, it has it's own "character", and the power of the Lambda driver. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.239.7.2 (talk) 05:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- As noted in Super Robot, line between two genre is sometime blur. However, have character/personality doesn't prevent it from being real robot (the earliest real robot with personality , AFAIK, is Layzner from SPT Layzner back in 1985. It's only its Lambda Driver that truly an issue. However, by using "how they treat mech" method, it's clearly real robot show. At best, Al is Sosuke's "buddy", but it still not symbol of justice. L-Zwei 05:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- The problem of such classification is, the author of FMP denies it to be a military based story, and said he did not intend it to be realistic. The out come looks realistic is only because he himself is a military otaku. MythSearchertalk 08:29, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Computing?
Uhhm...Why exactly is this article part of WikiProject Computing? This is about a genre of anime, and has nothing to do with computing whatsoever!! WTF!? Cabbage-Sama 10:25, 27 February 2008
Tags
The tags are simply disruptive and refuses to use common sense. The article contains multiple sources from independent parties all using the term Real Robot to refer to a type of anime, it might not be a genre, yet it is thoroughly used to refer to directors,(There is a best director of real robot anime) first real robot anime, peak of real robot anime and other supporting sources claiming the term is being used for a type of anime. There is no POV nor notability issue since it is not trying to claim anything from an editor's POV(and the NPOV guide claims that sources with their own POV should be listed). The refirm prove tag I could understand, since the article claims that it is a genre yet there are no reliable source directly quoting that.(mainly due to Japanese people seldom use the term genre) The other two tags, do not add it back, or AMIB, you can just go and list this in AfD and make it your WP:POINT campaign along with making yourself as a joke showing you lack of common sense in not reading articles sources while making false claims you imagined. This article is creating way too much trouble thanks to you, AMIB and the vandal who persistently disrupt (yes, this also includes AMIB) the page, one with a strong POV in redirecting the page falsely claiming it to be only SRW related at first and when sources show otherwise, tried to continue to falsely claim it to be Sunrise and Banpresto used only term, and further stipulate it to be a Gundam marketing term, while sources shown are obviously talking about other series as well. The other trying to add back the idiotic list without any source that includes multiple highly unsuitable series to the point where s/he only know how to revert the article to the state without any source and could face a total deletion is a simple stupid act on wishing the article to be deleted along with the list. I do not want to waste my time on this anymore, at least one side has to be gone, and the AMIB side seems to be easier to deal with(since AMIB got an account and is known to request for sources yet never read them) AMIB, I would ask for you to list this in AfD if you insist to redirect the page to somewhere or insist to place tags in this page to question the notability and POVness of the page, if you have so much doubt in the article's notability, show your arguments in somewhere people can laugh at your actions, instead of the persistent arguments against each of us to waste our time. Yet the AfD would also be filed and I would go and ask for an evaluation on your adminship since your actions are very disruptive and using your own POV to the point where it is out of common sense. MythSearchertalk 08:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC)