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If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article ATG Stores, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you.Template:Do not delete Brianhe (talk) 01:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brianhe. Thank you for your feedback. Do you feel I have violated any of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines in writing this article? I believe the guidelines state that any article my be created by any use as long as the content is kept neutral. I am new here so please help me out with constructive feedback if you have on my article. I've recieved help from Orangemike who describes himself as a "deletionist" and after some help from him he was ok with the article. The article also recieved help from Whpq and he/she seemed to appericate the citations in it. Thank you very much, Morganeason (talk) 03:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The answer to your question is found at WP:BFAQ. Essentially, working on an article about a business in which you have interest is considered a conflict of interest for Wikipedia. It is not strictly forbidden, but has some pretty strict guidelines around it and is strongly discouraged. -- Brianhe (talk) 04:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The ATG Stores article meets the critera of Neutral Point of View, Verifiability and Notability. If you feel it doesn't meet any of these guidelines please edit the article itself or provide constructive feedback as to how I can. If you feel I've violated a specific policy of Wikipedia please provide verification and I will do my best to correct my wrong doing. If this is not the case I would appericate it if you would remove your warnings about conflict of interest on my talk page as your comments have had a very negative impact on my first day on Wikipedia. Morganeason (talk) 05:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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June 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User talk:Brianhe. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Orangemike, thank you for being kind to a new editor. My tone in my response to Brainhe was much more negative then it should be. I will edit my request on his talk page following your guidance. Thank you for your help and support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morganeason (talkcontribs)

NPOV

Hi, Morganeason! Thank you for sending me a message. It's always good to see new users interested in making articles meet Wikipedia's policies. I notice that some other users have spoken to you about about policies on CoI, so I know you're familiar with that rigmarole and don't need to mention it to you. Now, the thing is, it's very hard to pin down in concrete terms the tone of an article. In this case, my concern is not at all with you writing an article while being employed, but rather the exultatory tone that the article approaches the company with. Editors should aim for the moon, so even if they miss they end up among the stars. Specifically, on a cursory read of the article, one notes that the presence of overwhelmingly positive phrases. That is not to say that you can't have positive or 'worthy' phrases in an article, but they should be kept to a minimum. The standard that Wikipedia uses is 'neutral point of view', (whose article is at WP:NPOV).
Now, generally marks that set off a flag in my head for a company's article is an excessive focus on figures, awards, and attention paid to roundaboutly touting the quality of their goods/services. For a couple articles that (in my opinion, just as an editor) do the job without writing with a vested or interested POV, check the articles for the following companies out. Arctic Cat provides a good history of the company without spending too much time on how wonderful the company is, my only objection to the article is the long and unnecessary lists of products. A good brief article would be that of Hughes Communications.
For an example of an article that I think reads like an advertisement, look at Goldleaf Financial Solutions. Take note of the 'business jargon' that the article is prettied up with. It reads nicely, but is ultimately mostly meaningless and reads more like a press release than an encyclopedia article. The same is true of the article for the Kirin Brewing Company, which (as you can see from its extremely lengthy history section) contains probably far more information than is needed. By any means, I hope I've been able to help! I'd be more than happy to help edit or give any opinion you might be interested in if you'd like to further contact me. Thank you, and happy editing! :) --Kuzaar-T-C- 18:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]