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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by ArthurWeasley (talk | contribs) at 05:38, 27 June 2009 (→‎Sauroposeidon Scale Diagram: Limusaurus). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Rhamphorhynchus

Glad to see you're still on Wikipedia!

Correct me if I'm wrong (I think I was wrong last time I corrected you, lol), but I believe the illustration by John Conway displays the proper head angle, based on the study done by McQuilkin and Ridgely, and I believe the illustration by ДиБгд can be termed as outdated, as it seems to display the head at a downward angle (I may be looking too closely). I noticed the Conway image is the one you removed from the article to save space. Keep up the good work! Bob the Wikipedian (talkcontribs) 05:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You bring up an interesting point that hadn't crossed my mind. We're capable of looking down while flying, why can't they? Okay...maybe we can't fly, but...
I can't wait to read this article when you're done with it. I'm sure it will be great. Bob the Wikipedian (talkcontribs) 16:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs

Same reason that there are dinosaur stubs instead of leaving them lumped with reptiles. :P Seriously though, there were almost 350 dinosaur stubs and that's way too many. Such a large category should be split into something more manageable for prospective de-stubber. Besides, someone before me had already created a Theropod stub category, why not create stub categories for the other major groups of dinosaurs? Abyssal (talk) 23:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DML Approval

How long should this process take? My email was verified Saturday but I got a message saying I needed to be approved manually and haven't anything from the list since. How long does it take, anyway? Abyssal (talk) 23:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Real Quick

How does the Q-Z section look here? Abyssal (talk) 23:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sauropodomorpha Cat

Why? That was a pretty minor change that obviously needed doing. I don't know what there would be to discuss about that one. Grouping the sauropodomorphs under a sauropodomorph category seemed like, y'know, common sense. Sorry if you preferred it the other way, you can revert if you want. Abyssal (talk) 01:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Argentinosaurus

Hello, I'm zh:User:Hoseumou from zh.wikipedia. I know you are a dinosaur expert, and I have some question about the length and weight of Argentinosaurus, see Talk:Argentinosaurus. Besides, if this article have debates, may i ask you for searching more papers to improve this article, thanks. User talk:hoseumou 15:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sinocalliopteryx

Hi Dinoguy. I've seen you are very interested in feathered dinosaurs. Now I'm working in Spanish Wikipedia on one of them, Sinocalliopteryx. But the article needs more quality because it lacks images, so I ask you to create one of your cool size comparison diagrams of this dinosaur, preferably some compsognathids to scale, the ones that the paper describes: "It is more than twice as long as Compsognathus, Juravenator and Sinosauropteryx, and much larger than Huaxiagnathus that is estimated 1.6 m long." Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience. Greetings. --Dropzink (talk) 03:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spinosaurus skull issue

Hi AW! Quick issue I found when making my scale charts (like a year ago, oops) with your Spinosaurus illustration. The skull doesn't seem to quite match up with the skeletal reconstructions based on the dal Sasso skull, as it's a bit too robust, especially in the top jaw. Check out the links posted in the current spino discussion at image review for details. Is this an easy fix? If you don't have time I could attempt a quick photoshop job but I figured I'd give you the heads up first. Dinoguy2 (talk) 23:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if you want to fix it, go ahead. Otherwise I'll do that... ArthurWeasley (talk) 17:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

feathered Deinonychus

Hey there. I see that you've been fighting the good fight about feathered Deinonychus. I'm trying to help out today, I think we're starting convince some people. You've been arguing this point for years, though, haven't you?Jbrougham (talk) 23:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edmontosaurus size

Hi, Dinoguy2;

Would you be interested in preparing a scale diagram for Edmontosaurus similar to what you did for Lambeosaurus, perhaps with a super-ginormous hypothetical 13 m individual and a less extravagant E. annectens (USNM 2414, which is 8.00 m long, or YPM 2182, which is 8.92 m long)? Thanks! J. Spencer (talk) 00:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Next week is fine, there's no hurry attached. J. Spencer (talk) 03:26, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ampelosaurus feet

What's wrong with the feet in the image? Just curious. Abyssal (talk) 15:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hesperonychus for DYK?

You ought to put Hesperonychus up for WP:DYK. The hook writes itself: "...that to date Hesperonychus is the smallest nonavian carnivorous dinosaur known from North America, [size estimate]?" or words to that effect. J. Spencer (talk) 01:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, may I request a chart, again?

Well, if you have the time and are willing to do so, could you make a chart similar to the one you made of the Carcharodon genus, but contrasting Carcharodon megalodon, apart of with the adult human and the largest recorded Carcharodon carcharias, with the largest recorded Isurus oxyrinchus, Galeocerdo cuvier, Rhincodon typus and Cetorhinus maximus? My appologices if I am abusive or I make you feel exploited, it is not my intention.

Thanks, and take care!

Eriorguez (talk) 01:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Isistius brasiliensis owns them all! And it also do nuclear submarines! Size does not matter!--Draco ignoramus sophomoricus (talk) 19:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tianyulong

The article mentioned that there are three patches where the quills were preserved, which seems to indicate that this is an artifact of preservation. Especially the one below the neck is a little disconcerting, it might have been displaced with the skin before fossilization or the animal might have been covered with a more extensive cover of hair-like structures. The artist who depicted the animal for the Nature press release seems to came up with similar conclusions (quills all the way back to the tip of the tail). Anyway, this is easy to correct in the image if needed (always easier to delete than to add ;)). Should I do this? ArthurWeasley (talk) 17:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK! Will do later today or tomorrow ArthurWeasley (talk) 18:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Argentinosaurus again

Hello, I search for help about Argentinosaurus again. It seems that there are three papers about Argentinosaurus in 90s, such as:

  • Appenzeller, T. 1994. Argentine dinos vie for heavyweight titles. Science 266, 1805.
  • Paul, G.S. 1994. Is Garden Park home to the world’s largest known land animal? Garden Park Paleontology Society 4, 5.
  • Paul, G.S. 1997. Dinosaur models: the good, the bad, and using them to estimate the mass of dinosaurs. In Wolberg, D.L., Stump, E. and Rosenberg, G.D. (eds), DinoFest International Proceedings, pp

But i can't find these papers in internet. Can you search these papers, and find out the length and weight of Argentinosaurus in these papers?

I'll be very thankful if you can help me, thanks. hoseumou 08:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anatomically incorrect dinosaur images

Hi, I was thinking that there should maybe be a category on Commons for anatomically incorrect dinosaur images, so we can tag them with it on sight, and then be free of them/know where we have them all in one place if we want to correct them, for example. What do you think? (Contacting you here instead of on Commons, since you might look here more often) FunkMonk (talk) 23:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, started the cat with guidelines from the dino project here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Anatomically_incorrect_dinosaur_restorations

First image I've put in it is this: [1], and I've explained why in the edit summary, "Tagged as anatomically inaccurate, due to lack of feathers and pronated hands". FunkMonk (talk) 13:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I just realised I could had just copied what you had already added to the description... I made another category too to differentiate between modern images that are just inaccurate due to, let's say "ignorance", and historical images that are inaccurate due to progress in research, this one: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Obsolete_dinosaur_restorations FunkMonk (talk) 14:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Sortable table for Rhamphorhynchus species

I was thinking that a sortable table may be apropriate for the species sections in the Rhamphorhynchus and Pterodactylus articles. Something to the tune of:

Name Author Year Status Notes

Ornithocephalus gemmingi

von Meyer

1846

Synonym of R. muentseri

Supposedly distinguished by its really big teeth.

Ornithocephalus giganteus

Oken

1819

Synonym of R. longiceps

Supposedly distinguished by its really bad breath.

R. jessoni

Lydekker

1890

Nomen dubium

WTF?

Think such a thing would be beneficial? Abyssal (talk) 14:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Good work. I am a bit confused about the year notation. What do the parentheses and such mean? Abyssal (talk) 14:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Few questions

Is it true that only theropod dinosaurs ate meat?

If we were to break down prehistoric reptiles from the Mezasoic era, could we say that giant reptiles could be more or less broken down into a few categories. Dinosaurs were giant reptiles that lived on the land. Pterasaurs were giant reptiles that could fly in the air. And Plesiosaurs were giant reptiles that lived in water. Would this be a fair break down of giant reptiles from the time? ScienceApe (talk) 02:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Fascinating. Birds evolved from meat eating Theropods. But of course many birds are capable of eating fruit, seeds, nectar, and plants. Is there any evidence of any Theropod dinosaurs that had similar diets? ScienceApe (talk) 04:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Therizinosaurs were herbivores. The role of plant matter in ornithomimid diets, if any, has long been debated. Abyssal (talk) 14:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As I mentioned on SA's talk page, don't forget oviraptorosaurs, troodontids, scansors, and alvarezsaurs, all of which were not strict carnivores, or contained non-carnivorous members. Caudipteryx and Jinfengopteryx preserve evidence of seed-eating in stomach contents, and the others were probably insectivorous. Some people have been suggesting that an omnivorous diet is probably primitive for maniraptoriformes, and that hypercarnvivorous forms (probably just the larger dromaeosaurs) are reversals. Dinoguy2 (talk) 17:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! Final question (well for the moment at least), what is the largest animal that we believe had feathers? Was it the Gigantoraptor? ScienceApe (talk) 19:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ack nevermind! I already asked the question! Uhh I guess that's all for now XD ScienceApe (talk) 19:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, but Sauropods are true reptiles though right? Cold blooded right? No more related to birds than alligators are, I would assume? Theropods are the dinosaurs that share characteristics from both reptiles and birds, with the feathers, warm bloodedness, and bone structure. Correct? ScienceApe (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm interesting, but birds didn't evolve from Sauropods or Pterosaurs right? They evolved from Theropods correct? If Sauropods were warmblooded, wouldn't it mean that they had to eat a lot more food than would be practical? ScienceApe (talk) 20:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thanks a lot! ScienceApe (talk) 20:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recycling Deinonychus

Hi, I always thought this image of Deinonychus[2] i made was kind of superfluous, so I was thinking of giving it a body and change it to some other dromaeosaurid. After all, it's pretty subjective what we label our images as, when an image could depict a completely different genus with just a few modifications (like with the Shuzousaurus/Northronychus I also made). So could you help with suggesting what it could be changed to? I thought this earlier version could maybe be used for Atrociraptor?[3] FunkMonk (talk) 22:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I could modify it heavily into anything I think (just got a new Wacom digitizer), so if it isn't an exact match, it wouldn't matter, as long as I find some references to modify it after. Pyroraptor already has an image, what about Adasaurus? FunkMonk (talk) 23:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can't find an image of a single Adasaurus bone anywhere, oddly, so seems like it'll have to wait... I should maybe ask on the dinoforum. By the way, I changed the wing of Saurornithoides a bit, does it look better?[4] And also, do you know what this is?[5] FunkMonk (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding dinosaur and bird olefaction

Theropod dinosaurs had excellent olefaction correction? But birds can't smell at all right? Do you know how/why they lost this? How good was olefaction in Dromaeosaurs? ScienceApe (talk) 02:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Liopleurodon

Hi, Dinoguy,

I just wanted to say - although we've had our disagreements on the Liopleurodon talkpage, you always remained 100% civil, for which I have a great deal of respect. I'm quitting the liopleurodon discussion (for a number of reasons), but I thought I'd pass on this note of appreciation.

Darimoma (talk) 06:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Those 3 dinos on 22 April 2009

Re discussion at WikiProject Dinos Talk page 22 April 2009 [6].
You wrote "at least three new dinos today!". Those were Beishanlong grandis , Xiongguanlong baimoensis, and "the Salgado alvarezsaurid", right?
And we still don't have enough on that last to create an article??? Or if we do, what is it? Thanks. -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 00:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Diplodocus size comparison.png

  • Hmm. Your first set of changes were mostly implemented when I saw your update. The problem is that I can't explicitly mimic a copyrighted diagram without violating its license. So I guess it's probably not worth proceeding. de Bivort 04:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Walk Cycles

Hi, Dinoguy. I'm not sure that you should be deleting the ornithischian images based on the walk cycle you mentioned over at the image review. See Hartmans gallery. All his ornithischians are posed in a particular way. I doubt he's posing them that way for no reason. [7] Steveoc 86 (talk) 17:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sauroposeidon Scale Diagram

Hi Dinoguy, Over the weekend I was experimenting with Illustrator and decided to make a scale diagram. I noticed that your sauroposeidon had a really large body. Whilst the body isn't known in sauroposeidon, Matt Wedal has used the centrum diamiters (which are about 15% bigger and brachio) to scale up Brachiosaurus' body.see Here Do you mind if I Upload this version I created? [8] It's based porpotionally on Wedal's skeletal, but modified to look a little more like Pauls and Hartmans recent brachosaurs with straighter backs and a slight up turn at the base of the tail. Steveoc 86 (talk) 18:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Limusaurus

Hey Dinoguy2, thanks for the critiques. I've amended the image on dA but the one here has been temporarily protected from changes so it'll have to wait. Cheers. ArthurWeasley (talk) 05:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]