Talk:M2 Browning

Minor Mod to usage table

I've modifed the "manufactured locally under license by " in the Description portion of the International Usage table to be "also manufactured locally under license by " as the Australian Army uses US manufacturewd versions of the M2 as well as locally made versions. IN fact I never saw a locally manufactured version when I was an armour corps soldier (probably the bigest suer tof the M2 in Australian service), though I am aware that ADI does manufacture them and the Aussie services do presumably use them.

Usage table

The ULK sectionof the usage table states taht the M2 is used as the ragning rifle in the Chieftan.

I storngly suspect that the Cheiftan used a special ranging rifle (i.e. not an M2). If it did use an M2 then I suggest the ammo would have to be diffferent from standard ammo ranges used int eh M2 as teh ammo would need to be ballistically amtched to eh 120mm main gun.

Any old RAC troopers out there tha can confirm this?

Merge proposal for GAU-21, XM218, and GAU-16

Support - These are minor subvariants of the M2 Browning Machine Gun family. I don't see there being any reason for separate articles. If they were to be expanded they would either be perpetual stubs or contain duplicate information. -- Thatguy96 02:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• Support - Makes sense. Koalorka (talk) 17:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Support - I would have merged without discussion. Too busy now. Rsduhamel (talk) 06:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

NOTE: This proposal has been expanded to include the GAU-16 article for the same reasons. -- Thatguy96 (talk) 18:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

• Done - So I just went and merged the articles. -- Thatguy96 (talk) 16:27, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

History contradiction

This article says that the 50 BMG cartridge was developed in response to the German 13 mm anti-tank gun, but the 50 BMG article says this is a myth. Somebody who has authoritative info on this needs to tell us which is right.--Dwane E Anderson (talk) 15:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

XM296 being replaced by M3P

It looks like the OH-58D's XM296 may be on its way out, to be replaced by M3P from surplus Avengers.[1] --D.E. Watters (talk) 22:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Carriage

¿Why is there no mention of the M93 Mod 4 Carriage used for vehicle-mounted M-2? I wanted to add the information, but I can’t even see where it might fit. A. REDDSON —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.70.241 (talk • contribs)

References

reference number two doesn't count for FNH being the manufacture of the machine gun since it is for general dynamics. But FNH has been the original manufacture since John Browning worked with them to develop the gun.

One problem with your story: John Browning didn't develop the original M1918 prototype with FN. From August 1914 to November 1918, FN Herstal wasn't in a position to do firearm design work for anyone except for the German occupation forces. Instead, Browning's work on the M1918 was done with the help of Colt and Winchester. The M1921 redesign has been credited to Colt engineer Fred Moore, and the M2 to an Army Ordnance engineering team working with Colt. Please note that Browning had been dead a few years by the time work started on the M2 variant. --D.E. Watters (talk) 22:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Read FNH book and catalog D.E. Watters. It has the history for the M2 Browning machine gun saying he designed the gun with FN Herstal. He even had an office there. AR-15(6.8 SPC) Proud supporter of the NRA! (talk) 05:07, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Which title would that be? Even FNH USA's webpage admits that the FN Herstal factory was seized by the Germans in 1914 and used as a hospital and vehicle repair facility. Other sources indicate that when FN employees refused to work for the German occupation forces, the factory was stripped of its arms making machinery and tooling. The First World War didn't end until November 1918. Yet Browning had already completed and fired his first .50 caliber water-cooled prototype at Colt in September 1918. Winchester was tasked with an air-cooled variant of Browning's .50 caliber design, and the first of these was test-fired a few days after the Armistice. If anyone from FN was helping Browning with developing those prototypes, they certainly weren't residing in Belgium at the time. FNH USA's webpage agrees that Browning didn't bring his WW1-era designs to Belgium until 1919. FNH's website notes that they didn't begin producing the heavy machine gun design until the 1930s. --D.E. Watters (talk) 21:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Their OFFICIAL military catalog. Why would they want to put misleading information? Where did you get the information that he was with Colt and Winchester. On the FN HERSTAL website it says they are the original producers of the M2 browning machine gun. AR-15(6.8 SPC) Proud supporter of the NRA! (talk) 03:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)