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Template:WP1.0 Template loop detected: Template:Todo EducationUnder the education section of the Sweden page it is argued that Sweden has more tertiary degree graduates than just a few other nations ("Only a few countries such as Canada, the United States and Japan have higher levels of tertiary education degree holders."). When looking at Wikipedia's own Tertiary Education, a pie chart is hosted which contains data from UNESCO. This chart, which can be found by navigating the aforementioned page, clearly shows that there are nearly a dozen nations which have a higher number of tertiary degree graduates than Sweden. Thus the current statement is misleading and perhaps should be revised to be termed less bold. Shellder (talk) 8:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Sweden's position in the HDIHello, I noticed in the article's summary (the first part of the article at the top of the page that Sweden's rank in the Human Development Index is stated as 6th when in fact it is 7th according to the Wikipedia article on the HDI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#High). I'm not familiar with the conventions of Wikipedia, so pardon any errors. 122.172.23.196 (talk) 14:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC) Anshuman Manur Piracy-partyUnder the heading "Political movements", there is a paragraph about the feminist initiative. I'd say that now, with the current debate on copyright/privacy/... reform, at least a paragraph on the founding of the piracy party and its later success in the eu election would be appropriate. Anyone agree/disagree? -- Tgwizard (talk) 23:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC) I would say its relevant. I think pirate party can be seen as the only real political movements we had in Sweden in the 21th century. Pirate party has around 50000 members. 3rd biggest party according to number of members. Moderaterna (m) which is one of Sweden's ruling parties have 54000 members. [1] Yesantenko (talk) 23:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC) The Photo Book about SwedenThink this should be added as external link, 44 young photographers portrayed their view on Sweden. Its a free e-book that can be found at http://issuu.com/fotoboken/docs/book?mode=embed More about the project can be seen here, its in swedish though: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fotoboken_om_Sverige Yesantenko (talk) 23:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC) References
The Language in sweden is no longer Swedisch. That has the goverment desided —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.10.114.222 (talk) 19:03, 30 September 2009 (UTC) A TARGET OF "VIOLATION"No wonder this page has been a target of "violation", half of it is not true. It's clearly a Swede who has written this page, because everything good is extremely exaggerated. Just look at the Sport section :S Changing false and exaggerated fairytales to actual, somewhat objective, facts is NOT a violation. Try this: less flashy and wrong > more humble and right. For once, you could actually learn something from the Americans. Look at their Sport section. Shame on you Sweden - and now, people can't even change what's not true... well played... (An example; Björn Borg. Sure, he's a known tennis players, but THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME as claimed, ehm, not so much. He is not mentioned/stated/nominated as the #1 tennis players of all time even in a single top X of all time tennis players. Rod Laver, Roger Federer, Pete Sampras, Roy Emerson, Ivan Lindl, Andre Agassi etc. are all ranked higher in most rankings.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.81.69 (talk) 02:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thought this wasn't a forum for spam, personal attacks and "stop crying-comments” :S It is both immature, stupid and also pointless. And my statement was not a "ridiculous understatement". I repeat; he is not mentioned/stated/nominated as the '#1 tennis players of all time' anywhere, anytime by anybody. So it is quite ridiculous to say so on this page. If it's supposed to be facts, that is... Really there's no issue here. Björn Borg was a very successful player in his time. If you visited Sweden you'd see that not much is exaggerated and most of this article is right. That lesson from America will have to wait till another day. Sweden really does punch above it's weight in sport and has a very well developed society. It has a lot to be proud of and, in my experience, is rather humble about it too. --GMcGlinn (talk) 02:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC) :Humility doesn't exactly show on this page. It's quite the opposite. As I said, many things are extremely exaggerated, especially in the sports section. If you don't find it a bit odd to declare Björn Borg the best tennis players of all time, when he has never been declared that anywhere else, I think you have a reliability problem. Former Yugoslavia and than Bosnia and Herzegovina?Since Bosnia and Herzetgovina was a part of Former Yugoslavia why than make two seperate entries on how many people from that region moved to Sweden, why not merge the two? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.227.116.47 (talk) 05:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
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Education
Under the education section of the Sweden page it is argued that Sweden has more tertiary degree graduates than just a few other nations ("Only a few countries such as Canada, the United States and Japan have higher levels of tertiary education degree holders."). When looking at Wikipedia's own Tertiary Education, a pie chart is hosted which contains data from UNESCO. This chart, which can be found by navigating the aforementioned page, clearly shows that there are nearly a dozen nations which have a higher number of tertiary degree graduates than Sweden. Thus the current statement is misleading and perhaps should be revised to be termed less bold. Shellder (talk) 8:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Sweden's position in the HDI
Hello,
I noticed in the article's summary (the first part of the article at the top of the page that Sweden's rank in the Human Development Index is stated as 6th when in fact it is 7th according to the Wikipedia article on the HDI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#High).
I'm not familiar with the conventions of Wikipedia, so pardon any errors.
122.172.23.196 (talk) 14:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC) Anshuman Manur
- Thanks, I have updated the text. Hayden120 (talk) 08:41, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Piracy-party
Under the heading "Political movements", there is a paragraph about the feminist initiative. I'd say that now, with the current debate on copyright/privacy/... reform, at least a paragraph on the founding of the piracy party and its later success in the eu election would be appropriate. Anyone agree/disagree? -- Tgwizard (talk) 23:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I would say its relevant. I think pirate party can be seen as the only real political movements we had in Sweden in the 21th century. Pirate party has around 50000 members. 3rd biggest party according to number of members. Moderaterna (m) which is one of Sweden's ruling parties have 54000 members. [1] Yesantenko (talk) 23:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
The Photo Book about Sweden
Think this should be added as external link, 44 young photographers portrayed their view on Sweden. Its a free e-book that can be found at http://issuu.com/fotoboken/docs/book?mode=embed
More about the project can be seen here, its in swedish though: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fotoboken_om_Sverige
Yesantenko (talk) 23:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
References
- ^ Member count. Link to Wikipedia Sweden, article.
The Language in sweden is no longer Swedisch. That has the goverment desided —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.10.114.222 (talk) 19:03, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
A TARGET OF "VIOLATION"
No wonder this page has been a target of "violation", half of it is not true. It's clearly a Swede who has written this page, because everything good is extremely exaggerated. Just look at the Sport section :S Changing false and exaggerated fairytales to actual, somewhat objective, facts is NOT a violation. Try this: less flashy and wrong > more humble and right. For once, you could actually learn something from the Americans. Look at their Sport section. Shame on you Sweden - and now, people can't even change what's not true... well played...
(An example; Björn Borg. Sure, he's a known tennis players, but THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME as claimed, ehm, not so much. He is not mentioned/stated/nominated as the #1 tennis players of all time even in a single top X of all time tennis players. Rod Laver, Roger Federer, Pete Sampras, Roy Emerson, Ivan Lindl, Andre Agassi etc. are all ranked higher in most rankings.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.81.69 (talk) 02:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don´t know what your problem with swedes are, but obviously there is something that is bothering you. I have no interset in what it is though... But I would like to point out that since you got so worked up about an overstatement it´s kind of funny to see you write "sure, he´s a known tennis player" when that clearly is a redicolous understatement. why don´t you go somewhere else with your anger management problems. We can´t all be held responsible if some swede have made you cry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grindsprint (talk • contribs) 21:23, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thought this wasn't a forum for spam, personal attacks and "stop crying-comments” :S It is both immature, stupid and also pointless. And my statement was not a "ridiculous understatement". I repeat; he is not mentioned/stated/nominated as the '#1 tennis players of all time' anywhere, anytime by anybody. So it is quite ridiculous to say so on this page. If it's supposed to be facts, that is...
Really there's no issue here. Björn Borg was a very successful player in his time. If you visited Sweden you'd see that not much is exaggerated and most of this article is right. That lesson from America will have to wait till another day. Sweden really does punch above it's weight in sport and has a very well developed society. It has a lot to be proud of and, in my experience, is rather humble about it too. --GMcGlinn (talk) 02:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:Humility doesn't exactly show on this page. It's quite the opposite. As I said, many things are extremely exaggerated, especially in the sports section. If you don't find it a bit odd to declare Björn Borg the best tennis players of all time, when he has never been declared that anywhere else, I think you have a reliability problem.
Former Yugoslavia and than Bosnia and Herzegovina?
Since Bosnia and Herzetgovina was a part of Former Yugoslavia why than make two seperate entries on how many people from that region moved to Sweden, why not merge the two? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.227.116.47 (talk) 05:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Very good point. The actual source (http://www.scb.se/statistik/_publikationer/BE0101_2008A01_BR_00_BE0109TAB.pdf, table 1.2.5) does list them separately though, and in the comments (page 436–437) it states (assuming you read Swedish as you have a Swedish IP address): "Födelselandets benämning hänförs till förhållandena vid födelsetidpunkten vilket innebär att en person kan ha ett födelseland som idag inte existerar. [...] Politiska och geografiska förändringar kan medföra att personen i folkbokföringen kan förändra födelselandet om humanitära skäl åberopas vid ansökan om förändring. En person tillåts registrera exempelvis Bosnien-Hercegovina eller Estland som födelseland även om det aktuella landet inte fanns som självständig stat då personen föddes." So it seems that some of those who immigrated from that region were registered as Bosnian-born and others were registered as Yugoslavian-born. Also, Statistics Sweden might use the "Jugoslavien" designation for both the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. If the inclination has been (contrary to what the text seems to say) to register people only under countries extant at the point of immigration, then refugees from the Bosnian war will be listed under Bosnia, and (most) refugees from the Kosovo war will be listed under Yugoslavia. Sure enough, as table 1.2.6 shows, more people have come from "Jugoslavien" than from Bosnia during the 2000s. At any rate, the Yugoslavia figures include most of those who moved to Sweden before the outbreak of the wars—although a few of them seem to have changed designation afterwards. Table 1.2.6 is a bit enlightening on this, but I must say the entire issue is extremely confusing and I don't know how to make things clearer when the source itself is so fuzzy. The only thing that's probably safe to say is that we're not counting the same people twice. —JAO • T • C 10:21, 15 October 2009 (UTC)