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Merge

After four years of existence, this page is barely more than a list of six emperors. I think it should redirect to Five Good Emperors (as does Nerva-Antonine Emperors!). Some will quibble that Commodus doesn't count as one of the Five Good Emperors, but he was still in the Antonine dynasty; so be it. Lucius Verus was also in the dynasty, but I don't see him on this list either. So be it.

Furthermore, the article cannot in any case remain titled as it is, because the grammar/spelling is a mess. ‘Antonian’ means pertaining to Antony (or Antonius). To invoke Antoninus Pius, along with Marcus Aurelius and Commodus, we should use the adjective ‘Antoninian’. In Latin, the adjective relating to Nerva is neruius, which ought to be anglicized as ‘Nervian’ (as is in fact done in for example Lewis & Short's dictionary). Nervian and Antoninian dynasty would make sense, as would ‘Nervo-Antoninian dynasty’, I suppose, following the model of ‘Julio-Claudian’. ‘Nerva-Antonine dynasty’ is clumsy but at least consistent; it uses nouns in apposition (à la Yukon Territory, rather than *Yukonian Territory), ducking the whole question of what the proper adjectival form is. Q·L·1968 ☿ 15:24, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I merged the other way around because

this article is more encompassing, providing no problem re Verus and Commodus not being one of the Five Good ones
is more neutral as it does not issue the positive judgement right away

I also corrected the really silly typo in the article's title.

I also merged the Nerva-Trajan dynasty (a three-liner) and the Antonines (a little more but still a stub whose contents where either already covered elsewhere, could be covered elsewhere or were nonosense like "Commodus single-handedly ended Five Good Emperors and the Pax Romana" - who fought more wars Marcus or Commodus?)

Str1977 ^(talk) 12:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on the merging! I know what a headache that can be. You may be right that it's better to merge Five Good Emperors over here – but I'm afraid my point still stands that ‘Nervan’ isn't a word and ‘Antonine’ isn't an adjective. ‘Nerva–Antonine dynasty’ it could be, or else ‘Nervian-Antoninian dynasty’ or something of that kind. Cheers, Q·L·1968 ☿ 19:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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