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Turkiate society

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Original Research, term does not exist in google scholars or books. Source cited has no quote or reference and looks like a primary source (a lexicon). Russian, Sassanid, Abbassid,etc. empires have never been associated with such terms. GoshtaspLohraspi (talk) 21:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. —LadyofShalott 21:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. —LadyofShalott 21:53, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I can find no sources at all to verify the content of this article. Therefore (and with a nod to the appropriate sentiment) I am inclined to agree with the nominator's assertion that this is WP:OR and should be deleted. Crafty (talk) 21:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete although I originally was a merge (I proposed it) I am now going to say delete because, as the nominator said, the one source cited is not used. Gosox5555 (talk) 22:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The one source is apparently by Mahmud al-Kashgari and from the 11th century. LadyofShalott 22:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While I also agree that assuming good faith is vital, the original editor has a history of creating content forks and other unusual splits of articles. Combined with the nominator's findings of no mentions at Google Scholar et al, I see no reason to keep this article, even as a redirect to Mahmud al-Kashgari. —

C.Fred (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Turkiate society and Persianate is very similiare to eachother but proposal of existance of Turkiate society word is dated to 1000 years ago but Persianate society word is proposed in 20th or in 21th century. This article do not says that Russian Empire or Abbasid Caliphate were Ethnicaly Turk, But is influesed by Turks Or Turkic culture, please refer to Abbasid caliphat or Ayyubid or Fatimid.

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Please notice that This article do not says that Iraq or Syria or Afganistan are turk, but aim is that for example Abbasid army and Caliph bodyguard were mostly Turk and Base of Fatimid Empire is of Turks, or use of Turks by Sasanid Empire against Romans, for example, is a reason to this that Turks were in Army of sasanids and could effect to cultural atmosphere of that time persia. Existanse of Iran and Turan wares and pre islam use of turkic words in persian and so are Slightly reasens to belonging sasanids to Turkiate Sosiety. But in samanids or Mughal Empire heavily influencing by Turkic culture is clear.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmycardiel (talk • contribs)

Arattaman (talk) 01:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]