Talk:David Van Day

Shouldn't the v be lowercase? Tuf-Kat

No Van is part of his (stage) surname. In reference books he's listed under V

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Incorrect?

I can't believe that this page consists of two sentences and I've spotted two errors. Or at least I think I have - I'm almost certain Van isn't part of his real name and is 1956 correct? I could have sworn I read an interview where his partner Thereza Bazar said in January 1988 he was 32 and he admitted it was true - which would give his birth year as 1955. Apart from that it's a fantastic page! --Tuzapicabit (talk) 00:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I see that the birth name has been corrected, but the page isn't much better! I've retouched the Dollar page - created pages for their albums and rewritten his co-star Thereza Bazar's page, but I refuse to give this guy a better page.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Ch-Ch-Changes

This is probably going to sound hideously arrogant, but why is it whenever I try to bring cohesion and order to this article my changes are automatically reverted? --Heslopian (talk) 22:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry that's me, and even though I don't like the guy, there were changes you made that didn't work (although I can see what you were trying to do). First, you lumped Dollar and Guys n Dolls together as late 70s/early 80s. He was a member of G n D from 1974 - 1977 and Dollar from 1978 - 1988. You also lumped Reborn together with I'm a Celebrity - more then 5 years apart. You also said that he had retired from performing - this certainly isn't true and he's been performing in 2008 in various line-ups and has released a single in the past few weeks. You also say he's married. I'm not sure he is - I know he was, but is he still? --Tuzapicabit (talk) 22:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Good point. To be honest I don't know very much about him myself (aside from the alleged homophobia controversy). It's just that prose style is my own particular psychosis, and I felt that the article was written in quite a sloppy, slapdash manner. The discrepancies you mentioned must have arisen while I was hastily re-arranging sentences and transferring information. --Heslopian (talk) 23:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to rewrite it - it got pounced on all over the place while he was in I'm a Celebrity - so that's probably why it's in the state it is. I was a fan of Dollar, but I never liked him as a person all those years ago and still don't, that's why I'm not contributing to rewriting it - but still, we need to keep the facts correct. It's good that you're interested in prose style (maybe you could take a look at the Dollar page which I wrote - my writing always needs tweaking!). Try this page again anyway and if there's any discrepancies I'll straighten them out - rather than reverting, and hopefully the page will be better (not that he deserves it!!!)--Tuzapicabit (talk) 00:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I might have another stab at re-working the article later purely for the sake of aesthetics, but as you said, I doubt he's really worth the trouble, especially when there are many finer artists on Wikipedia whose editorials need work. Just out of interest, why is it you don't like him very much as a person? --Heslopian (talk) 00:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

So many reasons, but he's come across as an arrogant p*** since 1982 with the comments he makes and the treatment of his co-stars over the years. Everyone in the music business think he's a joke. I won't go too far into detail, but this will give you an idea.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 01:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

lol! Now that I've read that article he does sound like a bit of a tosser. I especially enjoyed the end when his agent was quoted as saying: "Of course he's vain" and "of course he took cocaine", almost as if narcissism and substance abuse are required of musicians! --Heslopian (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Twattery

Surely there should be a section on this chap's rampant twattery? Would an image of his fizzog meet the requirement for verifiability?