Talk:Pop (American TV channel)

What's On

The show was hosted by Leanza Cornett(1st Main Host, 2001), Sibila Vargas(2nd Main Host, 2001-2002), Katie Wagner(3rd Main Host, 2002-2004), Lesley Ann Machado(4th Main Host, 1st half of 2004) & Madison Michele(5th Main Host, 2nd half of 2004).134.124.143.149 15:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Prevue Channel music

I am trying to look for information about the music that was used on Prevue Guide, though I'm not sure if it would be appropriate for the article.

The songs they used in 1994 were "Chase the Clouds Away" and "In the Bag" from Killer Tracks Production Music. I found that on a YouTube comment page and confirmed it by visiting the Killer Tracks site and listening to the songs.

The song I liked best was from 1993, when they moved to the blue grid, but I can't find anyone anywhere who knows the name of it or who wrote it.

If anyone has any other information, add it here. Again, it's probably not something that should go in the article, but it's interesting for those of us who remember it from back in the day. -Kcowolf 08:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:TV Guide Interactive.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Added fair use rationale, then removed this image from TV Guide Network article. Although TV Guide Interactive is produced by the same company as TV Guide Network, it really isn't the same product. Meanwhile, Wikipedia's electronic program guide article (which addresses interactive program guides as well) had not even a single visual illustration of an IPG. So, I moved this image there. (The TV Guide Network article links to the electronic program guide article, anyway.) Codeslinger2010 (talk) 21:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

TV Guide Interactive is NOT produced by the same company as the TV Guide Network... In fact, the product is not called TV Guide Interactive anymore, it is called i-Guide and is owned by Rovi, while the TV Guide Network is owned by Lionsgate. Rovi sold it a year or so ago, read the Wikipedia article ;) 68.39.4.46 (talk) 00:21, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, fixed! Also fixed pointers to TV Guide Network article I forgot to change to Electronic Program Guide article at the time. 71.108.48.106 (talk) 16:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Added fair use rationale. Codeslinger2010 (talk) 21:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Gallery

I think the gallery of screenshots of the TV Guide Network should be included. It shows the history and evolution of said channel from its beginning as a text-only service to the full-scale entertainment-oriented channel it is today. These changes are already described in the article in prose, but it doesn't give the same effect or show the full extent of the changes like the screenshots do. I do understand that Wikipedia has a strict fair use policy, and I do currently agree that a simple gallery of logos does not belong on this site. However, as I described above, this is different. —69.151.247.10 (talk) 20:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

A gallery of non-free images is unacceptable, really, and so is that many non-free images in a single article. I would not be opposed to images displaying the main points of evolution (and I am meaning 2 or 3 images) alongside the text, providing the text does discuss the contents of those images. J Milburn (talk) 21:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Erroneous information regarding consumer grade computer models used for EPG equipment.

Ok.. First off, you can't put cards inside an Amiga 1000... It has a single "side car" type expansion slot on the side of the machine.. Those EPG Sr. units had to be based on the AMIGA 2000 from day one, in order to house all that custom hardware.. It's possible that the later units could have been based on the AMIGA 3000 or AMIGA 4000.. These would have had (backward compatable to the A2000) internal card slots. Also, Commodore sold some later units branded AMIGA 2500 that were just AMIGA 2000s with various internal cards included.

Secondly, none of the "Prevue guide/channel" stuff EVER ran on an Atari 1040ST.. 130XE yes.. ST no... The ST series of computers made by Atari had nothing to do with the 8-bit series on which the EPG Jr. software ran.. The ST series did not have the ability to produce a composite video output (without additional hardware)..

The reason that both the 8-bit ATARI and AMIGA platforms made so much sense in this application is that both systems are completely designed around television video sync/scan timing.. This is not the case with an ATARI 1040ST which came packaged with its own custom RGB monitor and whose primary video output was designed around such..

99.148.252.40 (talk) 20:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC) Ken Jones 2:10pm EST 1/30/2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.148.252.40 (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for calling this to my attention. My time with United Video was just prior to and slightly overlapping the Wintel kit R&D, and what was added to the article came from firsthand briefings ("here's all of where we've been and where we want to go") which happened almost ten years following the A1000 EPG Sr.'s introduction -- and it's been about twelve years since then in turn. So either my recall for the A1000's add-on hardware faded in that time, or my bosses' had! Re-reading Wikipedia's A1000 article, I see you're absolutely correct on the no-expansion-cards issue. However, I do know the A1000 was used with the Sr. software and in fact the Jr. and Sr. products were introduced in 1985 a year before the A2000's time.

FWIW, obscure specialty products whose natures weren't well known publicly even during their primes, made by companies that no longer exist (UV), make for very difficult to document (let alone properly cite) subjects. Doing this overhaul without much to point at online reference-wise already felt like pushing the envelope, but having "been there" motivated me to add what I was able to -- doing my best to verify memories with old notes as well as currently-referenceable sources before and during the article overhaul. That said, I've been preparing another small handful of additions and corrections for slip-ups, one of which is that the GVP HC+8 was Zorro II and not ISA. In light of your reminder that the A1000 was "cardless", I'm now wondering whether the Zorro II card bus expansion sidecar you've brought up may have been used for extra memory when it came to the A1000, assuming the A1000 actually needed extra memory like the A2000's did. Otherwise, since EPG Sr. dealt with no live audio or video, the only other non-stock element to the A1000s was demodulating the WGN data stream. And on that note, see here (cabling info). This is the rear view of a Prevue Guide A2000: left card = GVP HC+8 FastRAM/SCSI, middle card = Zephyrus 100C audio demod/switching card, right card = Zephyrus 101C satelite listings data demod card (with contacts for cueing CATV headend video playback equipment). Because the A2000's ISA slots were inactive, the 101C simply demodulated Prevue Networks' 2400 baud VBI data stream to a RS232 DB connector on its own backpanel, which in turn was connected to the A2000's stock DB25 RS232 serial port. In all liklihood, then, the A1000 Sr. software (from which the Prevue Guide software was built) also got its demodulated data via its stock DB25 RS232 serial port -- just rather than from a card, perhaps from an external demodulator box of some sort supplied with the A1000. Alas that would be entirely personal speculation on my part (as is theorizing the A1000s used sidecars to house extra memory), so until I can locate something concrete (and preferably directly citeable) on these two points (memory and listings demod), I'll simply remove all mention of non-stock hardware from the article for the A1000 EPG Sr.

About the 1040ST, good catch there also: not sure how I wound up with THAT, as it most definitely should have read 600XL. Also on the A3000 and A4000 models being used, that touches on another item on my list. The main impetus for UV's switch to x86 was the cessation of A2000 hardware from Commodore as well as the company's existing inventory of ISA demod cards (the Zephyrus ones) not fitting the stock A3000 and A4000 cases (both had that vertical daughterboard mounting issue). Those cards were FULL size (see here -- one of them is visible at the bottom). So UV had resorted to the used A2000 market, forgotten A2000 warehouse stock, A2000 bounty hunters, and even A2000 clones to keep things going, and to suppliment even that, there was some backroom butchery of newer (A3000/A4000) motherboards into custom cases. It all became somewhat Frankensteinish toward the end. In any event, you could say the newer Amiga models were used, yes, but probably not in any form an Amiga fan would recognize. :) 71.108.48.106 (talk) 16:05, 1 February 2010 (UTC)