User talk:Noloader

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Proposed deletion of Crypto++

The article Crypto++ has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

WP:NN software library

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Articles for deletion nomination of Crypto++

I have nominated Crypto++, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crypto++. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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Talkback

Hello, Noloader. You have new messages at WP:FEED#Crypto.2B.2B.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Chevy monte carlo - alt 07:39, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Noloader. You have new messages at Zoohouse's talk page.
Message added 02:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Where to place your citation

Usually the best place to place your citation <ref> </ref> is at the end of the sentence. If you string a lot of footnotes in the middle of the sentence, it become really hard to read the article. Also, you don't need to cite a separate footnote for each citation. You can lump a few citation into one footnote.

Example:

Claim X, Y, and Z are made in this sentence. ^[1]

^ For fact X see:The Website for X, Five paragrapghs down. For fact Y see: The book BLA BLA by BLA BLA page # ISBN:34523452345. For fact Z see:Cite or Die, Last checked in 2006.

That's one way you can get rid of a long string of footnotes on the end of a sentence.

Here's the official guide manual for footnotes: WP:Manual_of_Style_(footnotes). -- ℐℴℯℓ ℳ. ℂℌAT ✐ 23:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crypto++

Excellent work - with a little collaboration turned into a decent encyclopedia article! Ryan Norton 03:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

collaboration - is that what you call hand-holding and nursing? lol.... The article surely would have been deleted without you and zoohouse. Thanks again.

Jeff Noloader (talk) 03:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Edits

Make sure you know what Minor Edits mean. Don't just check it off if you don't know what counts as a minor edit and what does. Some people get ticked off when you don't use it right. ;) -- ℐℴℯℓ ℳ. ℂℌAT ✐ 06:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks. I think I was abusing it in ignorance.

Jeff Noloader (talk) 06:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crypto++ NOR problem

I just noticed that you are using a ton of primary sources in the article. Sorry, I should have mentioned sooner that primary source can't be used in wikipedia except in very special situations. more info: Talk:Crypto++#Primary Sources - NOR Issue

You should replace all the primary sources with secondary sources ASAP. If you can't find secondary sources for them, then put a {{fact}} tag on it and we will figure it out tomorrow.

Heading off to sleep, night. -- ℐℴℯℓ ℳ. ℂℌAT ✐ 07:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Crypto++-logo.png (logo)

Needs a source (URL) and copyright information or the roaming bots will munch it up. If it's copyrighted, it'll need a detailed rationale but I can help out with that. Ryan Norton 15:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you sleep?

OK - it was created for the Crypto++ project some time ago. I created it for Crypto++'s wiki, which explains why it looks so lame (but there's no hole in the upper left hand corner of http://www.cryptopp.com/wiki/Main_Page).

I managed to munge things up on the Upload(Wiki)/Trim/Upload(Commons). The logo that should be used is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crypto++-logo.png.

Jeff Noloader (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Original discussion of Crypto++ logos can be found at http://groups.google.com/group/cryptopp-users/browse_thread/thread/eb150acc3907aeae/27a034eec03a4c53.

Jeff Noloader (talk) 15:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I see; commons images should just be mirrored here so you can just stick {{db-g7}} at the top of the wikipedia version. Immediately (or eventually) the commons version should show up here. Ryan Norton 15:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'm not sue what {{db-g7}} <nowiki> is - it looks like a typo. Is that what you meant? : Jeff ~~~~ == Group edits together == If you make a lot of small edits like wikifing the article, you can group it into one big edit. Just edit the article, and add all the <nowiki>[[ ]] and then save your changes. That kind of edit is minor and you can simply state "wikifing" in the Edit Summery. -- ℐℴℯℓ ℳ. ℂℌAT ✐ 18:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. (I also tend to do it when checking in code to a source control system (lots of small check-ins)). BTW. you signature in ie:

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Jeff Noloader (talk) 18:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Award

		The Resilient Barnstar
		For your great work and contribution at Crypto++. Joel M. Chat ✐ 21:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks man!

Jeff Noloader (talk) 21:26, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[Group_of_ref_for_line_1-1] For fact X see:The Website for X, Five paragrapghs down. For fact Y see: The book BLA BLA by BLA BLA page # ISBN:34523452345. For fact Z see:Cite or Die, Last checked in 2006.

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