Talk:Mind your Ps and Qs

Merger proposal

Why not to joint this article with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps_and_Qs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 127.0.0.1 (talk) 14:10, 13 February, 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Cenarium (talk) 18:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've redirected Ps and Qs here; the article was unreferenced, apart from one blog site, so I have not merged content. Pretty much all was covered here anyway. Note that there is some discussion at Talk:Ps and Qs about theories, but the refernces mentioned there don't seem reliable either. Gwinva (talk) 20:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

title needs to be changed

The title needs to be changed to 'Mind your Ps and Qs.'. RdCrestdBreegull (talk) 21:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

totally agree. It looks illiterate at the moment MrMarmite (talk) 22:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Incidentally if you're wondering how this is done, you need to click on the 'move' tab at the top of screen. Jefferson61345 (talk) 10:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Logic origins?

i thought that the expression meant logic.. i.e. in the phrase "somebody doesn't know their Ps and Qs". In some logic branch of mathematics, and apparently philosophy, two things are often compared with p's and q's. i.e. p=the car is red, q=the car is blue; if p then not q. i'm relatively sure that i've heard the expression "looks like someone didn't study their ps and qs in school" before. if i can find any info on this (sources), then i'll check back here. various wiki pages with what i'm talking about:

although Im not positive, it appears these concepts fall under "term logic". Nnnudibranch 08:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree, & was about to say roughly the same thing. Formal logic seems to me to be one of the more likely origins of the expression. Leitermann (talk) 21:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

curious observation

"Cornish is from the 'P' Celtic family. The P and the Q is used to differentiate between British (Brythonic) and Gaelic because of words like 'Penn' in Cornish would become 'Ceann' in Gaelic. A placename example would be Kintyre in Scotland being essentially the same name as Pentire in Cornwall. The other name for the 'P' Celtic languages is British or Brythonic. "

(from: http://www.cornish-language.org/english/faq.asp) 141.243.112.20 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Welsh "Map" and Scottish "Maq"

Maybe a wive's tale, I've heard that "minding your P's and Q's" is more ancient...the Welsh "Map" and the Scot "Maq" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.42.79 (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2010

Hi; I moved this comment from the article to the talk page. Please feel free to discuss it here - I'm curious if anyone knows more about this theory! Thank you,

-- Joren (talk) 19:34, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Irony

I ironically consider the digraph ȹ when thinking of this phrase which exhorts to distinguish them set part. 01:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)