Talk:Climate of Northern Ireland

Merged with Template:Climate of Ireland. See new talk page here.

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A fact from Climate of Northern Ireland appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 May 2008, and was viewed approximately 2,116 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the influence of the Gulf Stream on the climate of Northern Ireland gives the landscape of Northern Ireland (pictured) its green colour?

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why?

why is this article necessary? Surely this information would be better contained in Climate of Ireland. 86.40.181.112 (talk) 02:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's presumably poltically motivated given the current existence of northern ireland as a separate state to the republic of ireland. Nature surely doesn't care about such petty human boundaries: Ireland (Hibernia) is one island, and differs from north to south climate-wise even less than the island of Britannia does.

Climate of Northern Ireland: "Ever so slightly colder on average than further south in Ireland." Geez. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.14.42 (talk) 03:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please desist from political commentary. As you have stated, the Republic of Ireland is a different country to Northern Ireland, like it or loathe it. Therefore, the national meterological service is different (Met Eireann in RoI, Met Office in NI), meaning that the statistics are different. The article "Climate of Ireland" is actually about the Republic of Ireland, not the whole island. EJF (talk) 09:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The very existence of the article is political commentary.

And actually, the climate of ireland article is clearly about the whole island, as you can see from the graphs etc. What's more, Met Eireann routinely covers the whole island of ireland. http://www.met.ie/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.14.42 (talk) 18:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, their statistics do not - they do not have weather stations in Northern Ireland. Therefore all the statistics in the Climate in Ireland article are different to those in the Climate of Northern Ireland article. How is the climate of Ireland article "clearly about the whole island"? Simply, it isn't, check the statistics. I see you mention the graphs - there is one graph, which covers the whole British Isles. Are you therefore saying that because Climate of Ireland has this graph covering the whole British Isles, that Climate of Scotland is redundant to Climate of Ireland? As you can see if you read the article, there are considerable differences in the climate and statistics of the two countries, NI and RoI - and the article was created because of the need for climate articles that accurately show climatic conditions in the Home Nations. Climate of England and Climate of Wales are coming soon as well, am I allowed to write those? EJF (talk) 10:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

I suggest this article be merged with Climate of Ireland. The arguments have already been pointed out above. This is a geographical article about weather and climate. Nature is not confined by political boundaries. Met Éireann very often covers the whole island, and combining their data with those of the Met Office shouldn't be difficult at all. Furthermore, both articles already have very similar information.
Opinions? ~Asarlaí 15:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland are two different countries. If you guys have the view that just due to political reasons it is keeping the article about the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland being merged then i think you should think about the climate stats for places like Andorra! How come Andorras climate stats is not merged with Spain or France? Different country therefore different climate pages. This is also a stupid argument. Just leave it the way it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.208.132 (talk) 16:42, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just merge it and call the article Climate of Éire, as Éire is the Irish name for the island of Ireland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.230.186 (talk) 21:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should either merge these 2 or remove the templates. They've been there for over a year. My personal take is that they should be merged, but I understand the cultural sensitivities, and certainly am not pushing for an unnecessary fight. The Geography of Ireland article covers the island and I think the climate article should be similar. Fmph (talk) 18:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scientifically there is no reason to treat N.Irl and Rep Irl seperately. The climate, biota, geology etc can all reasonably be regarded as being the same, though distinct from Britain. However wikipedia is a human invention, and humans like their categories. If someone wants to maintain a separate page on Northern Ireland then so be it. Making mountains out of molehills, oceans out of puddles is a characteristic of sectarian divides, so see it for what it is, not for what it purports to be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.184 (talk) 09:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merged with Climate of Ireland

This article has been merged with Climate of Ireland. This brings it in line with the Geography of Ireland page, focusing on the island as a whole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whereabouts987 (talk • contribs) 08:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]