Talk:Big five game

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No giraffe

This is almost right - but the giraffe has NEVER been big five. What South African bank note has a picture of it? Its a Cheetah.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.191.82 (talk • contribs)

Adding to the article

Any chance of adding to this article. It seems innapropriately short. 88.155.36.98 09:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes please add. Anyone got a pic of a cheetah?--Polygamistx4 01:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CITES

CITES should be mentioned in the article. As techinically you can only import African Elephant/Cape Buffalo and can not import the other 3 (As they are in CITES App 1). This somtimes effects legally taken trophys being transported to countries who have restrictions on importations.Not all countries signed the treaty. Not all countries that signed the treaty enforce all or any of the restrictions of the treaty. So what do people think? People who know what they are talking about! Not biased anti hunting thanks!--203.192.91.4 14:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Different countries have different national laws on endangered animals. End of story. Captain Obvious strikes again. 21:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Black Rhino only Not White

It has always been Black Rhino and never the White Rhino in the Big 5. The fact that only 10 Blacks can be hunted a year legally only starting 3 years ago, does not mean the White Rhino can now be included. Its a great marketing tool by those who supply hunts in Africa, but its not part of the Big 5. Including the White is the same as saying you are using the origonal recipe but using a substitute item. Its just wrong! Since its a saying that was invented over 100 years ago and nobody owns. It can not be updated by any means. Why not change the animals because of cost, easy to hunt, location? It just can not be done even if others are incoprrectly changing the definition of somthing they do not have the right too.--203.192.91.4 (talk) 09:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can this be cited? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like to see a cite. Most of the things I've read just said "rhino" or "rhinoceros". Vultur (talk) 21:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.thesafariguide.net/fauna-flora/the-big-five. I'm trained FGASA Field guide and it's correct that the white rhino mistakable is a part of the Big Five. Only modern term and laziness have caused people think it's a part of the Big Five. 95.209.240.81 (talk) 15:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Species or subspecies?

Are there two distinct species of the African elephant (as the article implys) or it was meant two distinct subspecies, which i think would be the right thing.--96.239.0.223 (talk) 22:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are now considered to be two different species: Loxodonta africana and Loxodonta cyclotis.Vultur (talk) 21:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Autochthony writes - some people - including some scientists suggest that the Pygmy Elephant is separate from bothe the Savannah Elephant and the Forest Elephant Loxodonta africana and Loxodonta cyclotis respectively.

Autohthony wrote - 2010.10.02 22 15z. 86.167.117.177 (talk) 22:15, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why not big six?

Why are only these five species interesting for big-game hunters? Why no big six including zebras? Or big seven including gepards? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.203.86 (talk) 22:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because "Big Five" is a term used in reliable sources and that's what we rely on. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crocodile and Hippo

Should the crocodile and hippo be included in the big five as well, making it the big seven. The crocodile and hippo, along with the buffalo, cause the most human deaths of any animal in Africa and would also be challenging trophies for big game hunters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.175.248 (talk) 23:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "Big Five" is a well-documented term and we are only discussing what reliable sources report about it. We can't simply add things to it. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Things to improve

It would be nice to expand this article as follows:

a couple of paragraphs about hunting each species - difficulty, terrain, stalk vs bait, day vs night, etc.
discuss guns and cartridges appropriate to this kind of hunt.
Maybe famous hunters
relative cost?

And whatever else someone can think of. All with reliable sources of course. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 01:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks on the Rhino correction. Agree with the way it is put DeusImperator (talk) 01:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Safari Club International does not make a differentiation as to whether the rhino is white or black. DeusImperator (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]