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User:WookieInHeat/Userboxes/Politically Incorrect

Anonymous editor 24.162.198.130 has requested here that the userbox linked to above be put up for deletion discussion. On his or her behalf, here is their statement: "For better or for worse, it is still not possible for members of a civil society to use swastikas to describe their own irreverence." ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a worldwide collaborative project designed to accommodate all ethnicities and genders; your comment is inappropriate at a site attempting to correct a deficit of female contributors. Perhaps, rather than celebrating the article at asshole, you should check out Wikipedia:Systemic_bias#The_origins_of_Wikipedia.27s_bias 24.162.198.130 (talk) 08:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I always interpreted WP:NOTCENSORED to apply to just articles, as other than the first two lines, its scope seems to be confined to the mainspace, but I may be wrong. Meanwhile, we do have Wikipedia:Offensive material, which states that "Words and images that can be considered offensive should not be included unless they are treated in an encyclopedic manner." Having an offensive (offensive being subjective, of course) image in a userbox is not encyclopedic. It should also be noted that the term "offensive" is to apply to "the cultural beliefs of the majority of the web site readers that are literate in an article's language. Clarifying this viewpoint may require a wide spectrum of input and discussion, as cultural views can differ widely." I think this discussion basically comes down to whether or not the userbox is offensive or not. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 12:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep per Kiore && WP:NOTCENSORED. See User:RolandR, for instance. Though I could see George's point that swastika might pass as politically incorrect and offensive. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 12:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • User:RolandR depicts a man wearing a swastika armband. The man is clearly a Nazi. There is a big line slashed over the man. The sentiment is anti-Nazi. The visual implication of a swastika with a red line slashed over it is anti-Nazi. The visual implication of a swastika without a red line slashed over it is pro-Nazi. 24.162.198.130 (talk) 17:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Wikipedia is not censored. It is intereseted in making a balanced uncensored Encyclopedia. User space is not a part of the Encyclopedia. It is one part of the areas where users work together to advance Wikipedia. This user box is potentially inflamitory (and in my understanding illegal in at least one country) so is not conducive to fostering the cooperative atmosphere asked for to facilitate the creation of this Encyclopedia. It serves no purpose that can not be served by a less offensive user box. (Personally, (re edit) I'm not Jewish, Roma, European, or over 40 and this box makes no difference to me with working with anyone.) (And I can understand people being offended and I can't move out of the USA, never been there. And I already have some balls, haven't counted but I'm sure I own in the double figures). duffbeerforme (talk) 13:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Further thought, a change of image to a less inflametory image would solve the real problem and still send the same message. duffbeerforme (talk) 14:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Agree generally on the approach, an inflammatory image does not help coloboration generally, thus not really constructive as Wikipedia editing is concerned. However, AfD is not a right tool for this job. Relevant editors should be approached on their talk pages and talked to. This AfD should be closed. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 14:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • This is not an afd, it is an mfd. Seperate issues. duffbeerforme (talk) 14:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Thank you for clarification, Duffbeerforme. I stand corrected on AfD vs MfD issue. Though, still maintain this procedure is not appropriate and should be closed with no consensus for deletion. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 15:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • A change of image, perhaps to a double anal fist fest, would be enough to maintain the idea of a politicaly offensive joke that is intended without the cheap racial/religious connotation of such an infobox. duffbeerforme (talk) 15:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • I'm not sure if a 70 pixel square space really allows a userbox to capture the joyful "fest" to which you refer, but if you found a relevant image which was not under copyright, it's possible that some people might not understand how much fun the depicted fistee is having. This suggestion seems more practical, and would satisfy my concerns. IMO an erect donkey phallus would also be OK; it's possible to be crude without specifically invoking human suffering. 24.162.198.130 (talk) 17:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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