Talk:Party for Neighbourly Love, Freedom and Diversity

DELETE PAGE

The three men are not so important as to deserve an article. I call for the page's deletion.--Paschal Lehany (talk) 23:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC) Also, the article reads like a party platform document. Ordinary political parties don't have pages which use language like that. --Paschal Lehany (talk) 23:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

"Platform" section is absolutely not neutral

The current section only talks about

• Lowering of the age of consent/majority
• Elimination of marriage
• Permitting public nudity
• The plans to make railway travel free
• Animal rights

and #2-#4 only get trivial mentions. There is not a single mention of

• Their policies against censorship
• Protection of privacy
• Their many plans of reducing government interference in many matters
• Their policy on integration (which is an important subject in the Netherlands)
• The other plans for further giving minors the right to decide things on their own (lowered age of compulsory education, children decide which school to go to, lowered voting age, etc)
• Further separation of religion and state
• Policies for protection of people (laws against unwillful castration and circumcision, for example)
• Policies to protect the environment
• Policies to help consumers of enviroment-friendly products
• Major tax reforms
• Housing policy
• Government ownership of basic provisions and privatization of other things
• Health care reforms
• Education reforms
• Better rights for suspects and prisoners
• Judicial system reforms ("The foremost goal of our penal system should be to prevent the repetition of offences.")

Et cetera, et cetera.

As it is now, the page makes it seem like the only reason the party exists is to legalize sex with children and stir up trouble, which I very much doubt is actually the case. (talk) 01:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I suggest that one be VERY careful about editing this article. Despite what the previous contributer claims, the beginning of the article makes it clear that the PNVD platform is NOT only about sexuality. Various right-wing groups, notably Conservapedia, have been claiming that Wikipedia is trying to defend pedophilia, using this article as an example. (Obviously, they're trying to get it shut down.) As it stands the article does indicate what is partictlarly notable about the organization, which is what an encyclopedia of this kind should do. Since the consensus is to keep the article, it should stand clear of advocacy, which it indeed does. Alloco1 (talk) 23:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

The three men are not so important as to deserve an article. I call for the page's deletion. Also, the article reads like a party platform document. Ordinary political parties don't have pages which use language like that.--Paschal Lehany (talk) 23:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

ADD SECTION

Link to Proof of Life-Destroying Effects of Child Sex Abuse A section should be included prominently in the article showing the incredibly life-destroying effects of paedophilia including, but not limited to, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety, propensity to further victimization in adulthood, and physical injury to the child, among other problems. Very often paedophilia also results in suicide. The victims of paedophilia are six times more likely to commit suicide and are eight times more likely to repeatedly attempt suicide throughout their lives. The victims of abuse in childhood are three times more likely to suffer from depression or to commit suicide with the victims of paedophila being the most affected with a 40% higher number of them suffering from depression than the victims of all the other types of abuse. This is important information and will give the reader a much greater understanding of the issue, including the damaging effects mentioned above. It makes perfect sense to show the effects of this extremely terrible form of abuse considering the article. Otherwise the article acts as propaganda for paedophilia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.138.129 (talk) 18:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank You!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.138.129 (talk) 16:44, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Child sexual abuse is also strongly connected to the development of addictive behavior, complex post-traumatic stress disorder and borderline personality disorder.[19][20] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.138.129 (talk) 17:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Some of the effects do not become visible soon but do years later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PLehany (talk • contribs) 23:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)