Talk:Katy Perry discography

Ur So Gay

"Ur So Gay" is a single from One of the Boys, please add it. --TRyudo (talk) 01:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hot 'n' Cold

Hot N Cold is currently at #7 in the UK - up from #26 - please change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.105.191 (talk) 18:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Finnish Singles Chart #8, HotNCold. Add it. It is shown on single page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.106.22.46 (talk) 14:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

One Of The Boys

Whoever is deleting it from the single part stop. It is the offciial third single in Australia so it should stay.

Canada?

For the charts of the songs... Canadian Hot 100 isn't on there, and it looks too complicated for me to fix lol. Also the sales of her album should be on there.. :) - random user

As i have said about a dozen times in edit summaries, there is no Reliable Source available for the Canada Hot 100 - if it is added it is removed because it constitutes Original Research. Blame the CRIA for not publishing their charts efficiently. As for sales, the certifications give you an idea, however, we cannot add anything unless a reliable source publishes a certain number (eg. Billboard, major newspaper, RIAA, etc). Hope this explains a little about WP's methods, you can't just add or change things at your own discretion, you need evidence to back it up! k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 04:36, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Acharts.us mirrors the Canadian Hot 100, and does it reliably. Billboard has it too if you search by artist: Here's the record for Katy Perry on the Canadian Hot 100, reported by Billboard.—Kww(talk) 04:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I seem to remember searching Acharts and it wasn't there for Katy, it's there now though. I'll get to it later. Do you think the amount of charts is becoming an issue kww? Cheers. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 05:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Sentiment seems to be shifting to the idea that any charts from the 30 largest markets is acceptable, no matter how many charts that is.—Kww(talk) 12:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

My justification

To all of those who consistently remove certain content, i shall explain myself here, once and once only. Otherwise further action will be taken as it will be considered vandalism. This project is responsible for Discographies on Wikipedia. If you go to that page and click on any of the lists in the Featured Content column it will explain a few things (note: Some older ones there are no longer up to current standards, we progress).

• For one, Studio albums should have two == on either side, not three, it is a major title and Albums is not needed, continually reverting this is wasting both my time and yours.
• Removing New Zealand from the albums charts and leaving a bot to clean it up, giving no reason. WHY? It's vandalism, straight up.
• Removing a whole Studio album because YOU have never heard of it. Vandalism. Allmusic and other sources all state it existed, and it was in fact Katy Perry who released it through a record label. Just because it never topped 30 countries' charts, doesn't mean it isn't notable for inclusion. If you have any issues understanding these explanations, or need further consultation, post here or your edits will be reverted and your opinions ignored. I'm sick of the misinformed blind edits and lack of communication here. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 06:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Listen, yes, I accidentally removed a whole studio album; and I have heard of it before, but let me explain. I was using some information for a table on my wikia and I accidentally deleted the album and saved it (when I was supposed to preview it). It was my fault, but I know that it's so easy for a mod to fix, so I didn't think much of it. Sorry for any disturbance. ~Zzguitar14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.112.69.53 (talk) 22:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

This was written a couple of weeks ago when it was happening 2 or 3 times a day! Not you, don't sweat it. :) k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 03:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh. lol sorry, but I did it too, so I guess I could still apologize for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzguitar14 (talk • contribs) 16:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Singles table

hi there, i was reading through the info on MOS:DISCOG and it states that a limit of 10 countries is suggested and i noticed that this one has 16. can i suggest removing US Pop, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland and Belgium because it only covers Flanders and not Wallonia. any ideas? Mister sparky (talk) 14:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd agree with Belgium straight up, for the reason you have stated. That page is just a guideline page, it's not an explicitly stated be-all and end-all list of laws to follow. It's open for interpretation, consensus is really more important. So if three people for example, agreed that the page benefited more by listing a few extra countries, perhaps they could stay. I usually just let them sit, you will see if you go ahead and remove a couple, some nationalist will come along and vandalise the page in protest, patriotic buggers. :) If I end up taking this to a Featured List nomination, then it will probably be culled. Not too sure. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 14:40, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

hmm...well i'll remove a couple and see what happens. but i will leave a note saying that its up for discussion which ones stay or go. thanks for the info tho :) Mister sparky (talk) 16:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

201.209.230.203's recent edits

An edit summary wasn't going to be long enough for me to explain this, and this way you at least get to reply properly (without the usual, "No my way is better than your way" reverts). Okay, so first off, if you check most (any?) recently Featured discographies, you will see the way things are done properly. Things such as: changing the second level header to "Albums" and "Studio albums" to third level, it's not the generally accepted way. You also removed four charts from the Studio albums section - NO explanation why. No discussion, see the section above for the idea of "discussion". You added sales - unsourced and left the table broken. Unofficial album is not sourced ANYWHERE (this is not just to you, to anyone reading this, not at anypoint where this album is sourced, is it mentioned to be "Unofficial"). Just because it was not a massive album, does not mean it was "Unofficial". Would you call Green Day's Kerplunk "unofficial"? Just because they weren't mainstream at the time? No. The code was the way it was because it is simpler, simpler not having align=center on every single line, and also saves memory space on the page. I'm happy to change the dates back around, since I guess that is the American way. Looking forward to some kind of explanation towards anyone's recent edits. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 04:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Music videos

Actually, Katy Perry has more than 5 music videos:

• "Long Shot" [1]
• "Simple" [2] (The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants soundtrack)
• "Broken" [3] (with The Matrix)
• "Diamonds" [4]
• "Box" [5]

I don't know the year of release or the video director, but these should be added. --HC 5555 (talk) 17:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I have been over this, two things I couldn't verify. 1) Are they official music videos endorsed by the record label at the time? 2) Were they ever officially released? I assume not (a Youtube video does not prove either of these). k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 18:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

If You Can Afford Me

"If You Can Afford Me" new single? no source. yes it charted in New Zealand but it is not confirmed. i think that it should be removed --SveroH (talk) 15:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Certification

Someone please add "Waking Up In vegas" & "Thinking Of You" Canadian platinum certifications. --SveroH (talk) 17:48, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Done, also update the other singles. They haven't update their database though.. hmm. So had to use another source. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 06:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Explanations, please

These should have been explained in edit summaries - they are mainly controversial edits and need to be discussed:

• How is Katy Hudson (album) not a studio album? It is even referenced, so what if it didn't hit number one on twenty charts, it still exists as her first studio album, quit the ignorance.
• Who made Australia, Canada and the US the only three notable countries in the world? MOS:DISCOG is a guideline, it should be followed in most cases, but not religiously. When there is sufficient reasoning, for example when there is so many certifications to list, it doesn't have to be copied, it is detrimental to the page and the publication of the release's success.
• It is very, very ignorant to trust what a blog tells you about music sales, and then reposting it to tell thousands of readers of Wikipedia the same unverified figure. Please, think about your edits. Reliable Sources! A record label is also generally not reliable in this case either, check out the scrutiny at Talk:List of best-selling music artists, they are renowned for overinflated figures, you would think they'd know, but most figures they report are completely nonsensical. Find better sources; newspapers, proper third-party publications.
• The "text-align:center;" line allows you to center all the table without having to "align=center" every single line... much less text = smaller page size and less bytes = faster page loading.
• Why has nobody touched the lead? That is what needs the most work...
• How is "Starstrukk" a Katy Perry music video???

Some changes are really great, don't let me take that away from you - the edits are very much appreciated. But work with me here, you don't just come here, provide absolutely no edit summaries (in some cases) and change things which have obviously been done for a reason, without as much as explaining yourself. It's ignorant, rude, and quite frustrating... replies would be helpful. kiac. (talk-contrib) 03:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually I have added German and English certifications in singles table too, but apparently somebody removed it. Those five countries are actually the biggest music markets in the world (Japan is one of them too, but she did not have any certification there to list). About Katy Hudson (album), it was in the page too but again, somebody removed it. I also removed US sales, since it's sourced with a non-reliable blog. If you want, we can put 'Starstrukk' in a sub-section, with the title of "Guest videos" or something like that. I'll try to work on the lead soon. Decodet (talk) 16:22, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Where does it say though, that we need to cover just the "biggest music markets in the world"? I get that usually you would put the certifications in the same table, and space-permitting this is an obvious way of selecting what certs to use. But there is nothing saying you have to put the certs in the same table, I feel it is something we can bend the guidelines on especially since her singles have been certified in a dozen countries, it isn't illustrating her worldwide success just publishing the top five countries in western culture. Guest videos may work. Thansk for the reply. kiac. (talk-contrib) 01:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

California Gurls

Please update the chart position. The updated list can be found on the California Gurls single wiki article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.146.144.54 (talk) 11:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

To the charts:

Teenage dream (album) reached No. 5 in Germany source.--79.216.167.174 (talk) 12:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Teenage dream (Single) reached No. 6 in Germany source --79.216.217.12 (talk) 10:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Please add!

Other charted songs

Can somebody help me? The problem it's that, "Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)", "Peacock" are on Other charted songs section. But they charted on Hot 100?

Hi! First of all, I would like to remind you to sign your messages by using four tildes. "Peacock" did not chart on the Hot 100 (there are only one hundred positions), but bubbled. What do you need help with? As far as I see, I don't think there's anything wrong there? (Besides the fact "Peacock"'s peak is not sourced. Can you clarify? :)Yves (talk) 17:59, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

songs don't have to be officially released as "singles" to chart. people can download whatever they like from itunes and other places and if a song is popular enough it charts, in some cases very highly. Mister sparky (talk) 21:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Does she have any 20 track albums?

I just upgraded to an iPhone 4 so I decided to update my music to have the right details (I have hundreds of songs known only by their track numbers). I found a Track 05 that is Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl" as track 5 of 20. I found Track 04 to be "Use Your Love" I cannot find Track 06 or Track 03 easily. -- Azemocram (talk) 21:08, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

this is a talkpage for discussion about the discography article. this is not a forum. Mister sparky (talk) 21:27, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Firework

Would somebody please change the single position in Germany of Firework from "11" to "9"? It jumped two positions that week... --79.216.174.18 (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2011 (UTC)