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NPOV indeed - This article is as turgid as Kas Kapital & reads like some bolshevic polemic! I wanted to find out what the Melbourne Model was and all I see is ranting. 14.202.132.63 (talk) 10:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV Dispute - Melbourne Model This page lacks a balanced opinion on the Melbourne Model, with sources being exclusively critical of the Model, and not a single reference to the academics who support this Model (as there must've been for it to pass by the University of Melbourne governing body and Academic Board). If there are any editors actually at the University of Melbourne who can perhaps provide a more balanced view, and perhaps provide the views of the student body who do no belong to the Student Union (the majority of students do not, I believe) on the Model, this would be greatly appreciated by those interested in this controversial issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.36.29 (talk) 06:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most of this article seems to be on the response, as opposed to the actual model.--Ferox117 (talk) 04:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added something to this effect to the top of the page. Now hopefully someone who has the time will see the tag and add more viewpoints and information.220.238.164.30 (talk) 22:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It also seems to lack any actual description of how the new model works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.101.131.40 (talk) 12:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the most POV articles I have ever seen. Very little information actually explains the model and the reasons it was adopted. Almost the entire article is critical of the model. I added the NPOV template to the article to state the obvious. This needs work. Ben 1220 (talk) 07:16, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is hands-down the most useless WP article I've ever seen on the site. I came here to learn what the Melbourne Model is, not what random groups think about it. Good job. Shadow demon (talk) 12:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How is "US-style" a criticism? I think some Socialist Alternative hacks have been here...128.250.5.248 (talk) 05:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree this shouldn't be seen as a criticism, most of the best universities in the world are from USA. Maybe this should be rephrased so it doesn't sound like a criticism? Ben1220 (talk) 11:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If someone wants to see what the Melbourne Model was stated to be, then they should just look at the UoM website, where they will find lots of material provided for the public. If they want a critical, in-depth analysis of the policy and its impact so far on the university, then they will have to wait until enough factual material is released. The university administration is not likely to divulge such data, such as discussions held at University Council meetings, and such an analysis is not likely to come from current UoM staff, as they remain under threat of job cuts.

As an ex-member of academic staff of UoM, I would say the strong negative focus of the current page is attributable to the following:

a) the 'Bologna/Bologna-Melbourne/Melbourne Model' was seen by many staff at its introduction to be a Glyn Davis policy that would have a major impact but where staff were not consulted in its formulation. It was a top-down decision to implement as fast as possible with little or no consideration of the negative consequences.
b) the rapid implementation resulted in much extra work by staff, with numerous meetings to plan the new courses; meetings that were characterized by endless changes in course names, student quotas, subject content and integration with other courses/subjects. Rather than bringing faculties and departments together, these caused considerable friction.
c) like any disaster, the immediate public focus inevitably falls on the results. For example, while it is useful to know about the construction of the Titanic, and the errors of judgment by the captain, the main focus at the time was on the sinking and loss of life. In the case of UoM, the original material regarding the 'Model' policies are even more difficult for those affected to write objectively about because they are so tightly coupled to the advertising and PR hype of the university ('DreamLarge'). This is a particularly sore point because the huge advertising costs could have been used to retain staff numbers rather than reduce them.

Mushroom123 (talk) 21:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For someone who came here wanting to know what Melbourne Model is, this article is pretty useless... You should, for instance, outline how the new model is different from the way things used to run. What about breadth subject requirements? As a new undergrad I have to do breadth subjects whereas before, people apparently didn't have breadth subjects. And it is not possible to do double degrees anymore. That's about the only things I know about the Melbourne Model, no thanks to this article... 122.107.130.111 (talk) 09:20, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]