Talk:Tzadikim Nistarim

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Can someone provide a pronunciation for this?

The second portion of this (beneath the Yiddish pronunciation) recapitulates a lot of what was said in the first half. It should be cleaned up. JRoman 23:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name Change

If no one objects, I will change the name of this article to "Tzadikim". The chances that someone will search for this article under its present name is about zero. Kwork 20:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even with the current title the article will still appear if you search for "Tzadikim." Iron Ghost 01:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevertheless, anyone searching for information on Tzadikim would search for it like that. Why not have an article title that would go directly to the article? Kwork 11:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I found the article by searching for "lamed vav." Jymlarin (talk) 06:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tzadikim right now gets redirected to Tzadik and is the plural of it. Tzadikim Nistarim or Lamed Vav Tzadikim aren't merely "many" Tzadikim; it actually has a different context and meaning. Therefore Tzadikim would not be a replacement for Tzadikim Nistarim, besides which it has been pointed out that no one is going to look for Tzadik or Tzadikim when wanting information on this. Issac (talk) 19:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gender

An anon just made this edit, carping that the Nistarim are split evenly between males and females. I'm not sure this is correct. I have a copy of Borges's Book of Imaginary Begins & the Lamed Wufniks entry unequivocally speaks of men and hes and hims. Does anyone know further? --Gwern (contribs) 21:34 29 January 2008 (GMT)

"widely-held belief"?

Just wondering what qualifies this as a "widely-held belief"; I suspect most Jews have never heard of it. Would "widely accepted" be better if you are trying to indicate it's a mainstream concept? Or perhaps "widely-held belief among people who study Jewish Mysticism"? Victor.Sac (talk) 05:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this sheds some light on the "widely-held belief" issue. I read a reference about the value 36 being embedded in the Hebrew greeting "Shalom" (lamed-vav makes up the middle letters). The argument (granted, from a Jewish playwright) states that lamed-vav (36) exists in the word in order to express that the 36 Righteous are necessary to maintain "peace" (the literal translation of "shalom") in the world. Source: Two by Ron Elisha (play). Also, does anyone think there be a "See Also" section which links to the article on Gematria? Jymlarin (talk) 06:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]