Talk:Sprained ankle

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References

Removed alot of very poorly referenced material and tagged other stuff. --Doc James (talk) 19:35, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Icing an ankle too long may cause cold injuries.[citation needed]

Do we really need a citation for this..? Ice kept on too long causes cold injuries. It's common sense, what do you think can happen exactly? 93.33.245.206 (talk) 18:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes a good idea to keep it many believe more is better and thus the freeze injuries.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Logically, you're going to get frostbite-style damage if you freeze tissue. It would be could to get some sort of citation for that. BTW, I've come to this page because I twisted my ankle a few minutes ago. It’s swollen up like a balloon. I hobbled over to the computer to learn what to do about it. — Chameleon 08:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?

Any idea why this article is separate from the more generic Sprain? Are sprained ankles really that different that sprains in general?

Yes one is a specific condition the other is far more general. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

I propose that this article be merged into Sprain because the differentiation of an ankle sprain from a sprain in general is not so great as to rate a separate article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal abandoned due to lack of support. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. As they are discussed separately in the literature.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A good ref

[1] --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would like some advice on my ankle

Hi, I would like some advice on my ankle I am in an airbase at the moment and anyone who knows alot about the subject and could give me some advice I would be glad as I'm confused with what's actually wrong with it as it's mega bad, can show anyone pics for their opinion Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 26sameaves (talk • contribs) 00:24, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Use of word 'Sensitivity' under 'Diagnosis' section

Sensitivity is a measure of true positives Specificity is a measure of true negatives, this is what is described under the diagnosis section following the use of the above word, the word should be specificity not the sensitivity... I have therefore changed this word from sensitivity to specificity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.64.98 (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking this, but after double checking at the Sensitivity and specificity article, I think the proper word is still "sensitivity". Highly sensitive tests have low false negative rates, which is what the sentence describes. The cited article also states that the test is highly sensitive and therefore useful as a way to prevent unnecessarily order radiographs on people who almost certainly do not have ankle fractures. mcs (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your reply, I have not changed the article back, however do still believe you to be wrong. You state that "highly sensitive tests have a low false negative rate", this is not strictly true. Highly sensitive tests have a high true positive rate. A low false negative rate = a high true negative rate = specificity. A high true positive rate = a low false positive rate = sensitivity. The degree of true positivity is all you can talk about them when refering to sensitivity - its exclusively a measure of how accurate the positve predictive value is. If a test with a high sensitivity shows something is positive, then it is very likely to be positive, however, if that same test shows something to be negative, it may not be so accurate. - Specificity determines how likely this is. How high or low the false negative rate is is specificity.