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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by JustinSpringer (talk | contribs) at 18:29, 13 April 2011 (→‎I don't need your approval to state an opinion). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Redirecting while AfD is ongoing

From Wikipedia:Guide to deletion, "You should not turn the article into a redirect. A functioning redirect will overwrite the AFD notice. It may also be interpreted as an attempt to "hide" the old content from scrutiny by the community." At both Yellow Sunday and 2011 Lokpal bill drafting committee, you redirected while an AfD was ongoing. This is inappropriate. As such, I am going to revert your redirects there. If the discussion is closed as a delete, then appropriate redirects could be left behind, but that has to wait until after the AfD has finished. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, Qwyrxian, if I committed such a mistake. I know that the articles should be deleted but both the articles have found their way to the main article, 2011 Indian anti-corruption movement. So I thought it would be appropriate to remove the tag and redirect the article to the main article. JustinSpringer (talk) 06:39, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No problem--I see you're farily new at Wikipedia. In general, once an AfD is started, it has to run to completion; about the only exceptions are if it can be shown that the AfD was made in bad faith (to be pointy), if it was made by the sockpuppet of a banned user, or if it turns out that it fulfills as speedy deletion criteria and really needs to be deleted faster. The idea is that we allow 7 days for anyone interested to chime in on the issue as to whether or not the subject meets the criteria for having a stand alone article. It may well be that these articles don't, in which case at the end of the week (or so), they'll be redirected again. Enjoy your time on WP, and always feel free to ask if you have any questions. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't need your approval to state an opinion

As someone who has been on Wikipedia for less than 2 weeks, I don't think you have any buisiness setting conditions under which you will accept my contribution to a discussion. And if I gave you a number, would you really change your opinion? Not that such a number would have any relevance, as Mubarak is not a head of state. Kevin McE (talk) 16:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For your information KevinMcE, I said I will accept your view, I didn't speak for the Wiki Community altogether! If you have a habit of taking things personally, well, BREAKING NEWS! I DON'T CARE! JustinSpringer (Talk at your own risk)
Whether you accept my opinion is of no interest to me, or to anyone else. You said that if I gave a number you would accept my oppose, which indicates either a lack of understanding of your own comment, or an opinion that is so easily swung that it should bear little weight. An opinion that is only underlined by the retraction of your comments, an edit done in a rather underhand manner suggesting a lack of the integrity to apologise. You also need to look at a newspaper from time to time: Mubarak is no longer head of state. Kevin McE (talk) 17:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  1. an edit done in a rather underhand manner suggesting a lack of the integrity to apologise. Why do I apologise when you take things personally?
  1. Whether you accept my opinion is of no interest to me, or to anyone else. Why do I care what your opinion is, I just wanted to know why can't Hosni Mubarak's news find place in the Main Page according to you?
  2. You said that if I gave a number you would accept my oppose I said that because Laurent Gbagbo and Mubarak are the only (ex) heads of state recently under fire. And also, you couldn't provide a reasonable explaination as to why you are content with Gbagbo finding a place instead of Mubarak. If you are speaking against an arrested ex-head of state (Mubarak), you should have been intelligent enough to note that Gbagbo is also an arrested ex-head of state and the Egyptian crisis was much more popularized than the Ivorian one and both news are equally important.
  • Last but not the least, please assume good faith, I have no personal enemity with you (ipso facto I don't even know you!) So why fight if our motive is same, i.e., the betterment of Wikipedia (considering of course that is your motive).
  • Also I don't want to be labelled as an ass, who will want to fight in every baby-tantrum available. If I have unknowingly caused any trouble, I apologise. I just thought that your explaination was not reasonable enough to oppose the news. As a matter of fact, even Gbagbo is only arrested, and in judicial custody (like Mubarak), not sentenced, so I knew that your opposition did not provide a concrete explanation. JustinSpringer (talk) 18:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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