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Interactions with User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters

(Something is quacking here and it ain't the duck tunnel [1]....)

See also: Alan Soble (and JBsupreme), #Other discussions

David Mertz, List of Python software

Date (UTC) Discussion Quote/diff Notes
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:08 "Looking through your contribution history, I see an almost complete lack of edit summaries. Moreover, looking through this talk page, I see that many, many other editor have complained about this... and also that you have failed to use edit summaries in an effort to covertly {prod} or {AfD] article in ways that make it difficult for editors and admins to follow the actions. This is looking like very bad faith, and I believe appropriate for ANI if you do not begin immediately using accurate summaries for your edits. LotLE×talk 10:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [2]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:09 "Undid revision 341447627 by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (talk) troll elsewhere please" [3]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:31 "to be deleted" [4]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:33 "Delete. That this began as an autobiography is neither here nor there, but I do find it peculiar that despite the long list of book contributions there isn't much in the way of non-trivial coverage of the subject from reliable third party publications. JBsupreme (talk) 10:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [5]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:12 "to be deleted" [6]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:13 Delete. While organized, this is still an indiscriminate list. JBsupreme (talk) 18:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [7]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:49 "The result was SNOW or speedy keep, take your pick. Nomination has garnered no support; many !voters are finding arguments in the first AfD compelling. Jclemens (talk) 00:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)" [8]

AN/I: User:JBsupreme "revenge" deletion and general belligerence

Date (UTC) Discussion Quote/diff Notes
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:27 User:JBsupreme "revenge" deletion and general belligerence
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:48 "Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters has been trolling AN/I and elsewhere for quite some time now. He can keep on doing that if it suits him. There are edit summaries for the deletion nominations of both articles posted. I do admittedly slip up on occasion and forget to add a summary for a prod at times, but neither of these two are valid examples of that. Furthermore, it is not up to me to decide if the David Mertz article is notable, that is a community decision based on how WP:BLP, WP:BIO, WP:GNG, and any other relevant policies or guidelines are being interpreted at the time. JBsupreme (talk) 19:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [9]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:06 "Comment: This seems to be retaliatory spiteful actions by JBsupreme (talk · contribs). This is a nom by JBsupreme (talk · contribs) of an article (admittedly by the subject on his userpage) which is a real-life bio page about the other editor in the dispute, Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters. This is a nom of a page created by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters. These actions by JBsupreme (talk · contribs) are highly inappropriate, disruptive, and indeed seem to be retaliatory in nature. Seems like a clear-cut case of WP:WIKIHOUNDING. Cirt (talk) 20:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [10]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:12 "(ec) As a matter of assuming good faith, JBSupreme offers a fair explanation on the lack of edit summaries. LotLE hasn't provided any proof for the speculation that the incomplete AfD procedure reflects an intent to deceive people, although there's some evidence that it's a recurring pattern. (addressing JBSupreme) If you try to remember in the future, problem solved there. The name-calling is a problem, though, as is the apparent vendetta. Are you telling us that you just happened upon that article on your own, and decided out of the blue to re-nominate it barely three months after it survived its last deletion nomination? It would appear that your dispute with this editor carried you there. Back to the original complaint, I think it rests on an assumption of bad faith that others may not be so willing to make. The easiest solution, I think, is for the two of you to try to see the good in each other and make up, or failing that, just disengage. Yes, there was some hounding, but the damage can be undone easily enough. The nominations ought to be withdrawn, but both of those articles will likely survive AfD even if carried to its full term. Just my opinion. - Wikidemon (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [11]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:14 "I fully agree with Wikidemon that the two AFD nominations should be withdrawn, and then the two editors should agree to disengage from each other in the future. Cirt (talk) 20:14, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [12]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:41 "From a completely uninvolved point of view, this looks like a case of wikihounding which is in violation of an ArbCom ruling in which JBsupreme "is warned to refrain from incivility and personal attacks". It appears to me that some sort of action against JBsupreme may be warranted. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 20:41, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [13]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:43 "Wow, thanks for pointing that out, I was unaware of that ArbCom ruling regarding JBsupreme. This certainly seems to merit administrative action. Cirt (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [14]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:11 "FWIW, JBsupreme has called me a "troll" and some other insults on some AfD pages (which I'm having trouble locating, however, in a quick search). That probably violates the arbitration ruling on WP:NPA. However, my concern really is not that my fragile feelings were hurt by being called a mean name... rather, I find his disruptive behavior around "delete by every means (including deception, bullying, etc)" to be the underlying issue. LotLE×talk 21:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [15]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:43 "I recently observed behaviour of JBsupreme which looked to me like deceiving and I filed an ANI thread about it a few days ago, which went basically uncommented and went to the archive. I just want to mention it again, in case it is part of a bigger picture and relevant here: [16]. JBsupreme, please don't take this as a personal attack, I only mentioned it. --thommey (talk) 21:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [17]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:31 "With respect to the AfDs, an AfD on David Mertz could possibly be in good faith--a simultaneous one against Mertz' RL field of work-- List of Python software, after a unanimous first AfD, makes it seem otherwise. DGG ( talk ) 23:31, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" [18]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 05:46 "This editor strikes me as one who has difficulty letting things go when consensus is against him. Resolute 05:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)" [19]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:48 "I endorse the above view of Resolute with concern. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:48, 3 February 2010 (UTC)." [20]

Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio

Date (UTC) Discussion Quote/diff Notes
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:57 Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio "Delete. Wikipedia is not a webhost. This page was deliberately created as an end run around a recent AfD discussion which resulted in delete of this same article in the main Wiki space. Besides being a repost of deleted material, it was done as a copy/paste move which also violates GFDL. Userpages are not intended as a means of self-promotion or to circumvent our deletion processes. JBsupreme (talk) 10:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)" [21] [22]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:12 Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 February 21#User talk:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio [23]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:12 "moved David Mertz to User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio: Userfying per DRV" [24]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:13 "subst:afd-privacy" [25]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:35 "Undid revision 347084001 by Tothwolf (talk) unnecessary at this point, we no longer index these pages on Google -- pls stop following my edits" [26]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:57 "Undid revision 347255910 by JBsupreme (talk) Just let it go, JBsupreme." [27]

Continued wikihounding

Date (UTC) Discussion Quote/diff Notes
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:23 [28]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:38 [29]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:40 [30]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:21 [31]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:23 history "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source WP:BLP" [32]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:10 "to be deleted" [33]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:13 Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 March 4#List of pop culture references to the 69 sex position "Delete. This is an invalid redirect; there is no such list of pop culture references within the article, and it appears that any such section was vacated eons ago. JBsupreme (talk) 07:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)" [34]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:16 [35]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:47 history "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source WP:BLP" [36]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:45 "to be deleted" [37]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:47 "Delete. This individual WP:BLP lacks non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. If you actually drill down on some of the cites provided you will find passing mention or no mention of this person within. JBsupreme (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)" [38]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:30 "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source which would demonstrate encyclopedic relevance or notability WP:RS" [39]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:58 history "to be deleted" [40]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:59 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Watkins (2nd nomination) "Delete. I am having difficulty locating non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications about this person. JBsupreme (talk) 19:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)" [41]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:25 "Reverted 2 edits by JBsupreme identified as vandalism to last revision by Kevin. (TW)" [42]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:29 "Reverted 1 edit by JBsupreme identified as vandalism to last revision by Erik9bot. (TW)" [43]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:00 "Undid revision 349254857 by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (talk) you are violating NPA and BLP policy in tandem, pl" [44]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:01 "Undid revision 349255647 by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (talk) again you are violating NPA and BLP policy in tand" [45]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:49 "to be deleted" [46]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:50 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Soble "Delete. Subject would appear to fail general notability guidelines due to a lack of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. Searching Google News yields exactly zero matches by this name. [47] JBsupreme (talk) 20:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)" [48]

Other discussions

See also: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tothwolf/Evidence#Evidence presented by Shii

Date (UTC) Discussion Quote/diff Notes
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:09 Proposing ban of sorts
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:25 User:JBsupreme moving an article just before nominating for deletion
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:54 afd-privacy
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:24 Unnecessary blanking of closed AfDs "User:JBsupreme has replaced the content at Articles for deletion/Chioke Dmachi (2nd nomination) with an {{afd-privacy}} tag. I can see no reason for this; there were no BLP issues on that page (before, after). There is no explanation for the change in the edit summary, no aparrent involvement with the closing admin, and the user will not explain what issues are perceived. This was one of several examples all done at that time - see also: [...]" [49]
Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:57 Alan Soble (and JBsupreme)