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September

09E.HILARY - Category 4 Hurricane

Best status from NRL: 125 kts 944 mb

96E.INVEST first appeared 2011-09-20, 0000z @ 13.2°N 94.6°W

Tropical Depression Nine-E from NRL 2011-08-21, 0900z @ 13.4°N 96.5°W

Tropical Storm Hilary from NRL 2011-08-21, 1500z @ 13.6°N 96.8°W

Hurricane Hilary, Category 1 from NRL 2011-08-22, 1500z @ 15.1°N 98.9°W

Hurricane Hilary, Category 2 from NRL 2011-08-22, 2100z @ 15.6°N 99.8°W

Hurricane Hilary, Category 3 from NRL 2011-08-23, 0000z @ 15.9°N 100.3°W

Hurricane Hilary, Category 4 from NRL 2011-08-23, 0300z @ 16.0°N 100.8°W

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Hurricane Hilary

Changes

It's the start of the hurricane season, we've changed all places where it said "Season Not Started" to "Season Still Active". "Nova Scotia's biggest train person" (talk) 12:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2010 activity

Should it be mentioned that there is a tie for record lowest number of storms with 1977 from last year in the activity box? I at the least think we should put the † symbol in the activity box since there is a tie for record highest hurricanes and record lowest NS's and MH's. Rye998 (talk) 20:30, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I put it back in (it got removed by mistake). Y E ^Tropical ^Cyclone 22:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really not a fan of this one. There was clearly a record low number of storms in the Eastern Pacific proper last year but Omeka (a Central Pacific storm) is hiding that on Wikipedia due to our merging of the two basins. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:30, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not in objection to including Omeka, because we don't exclude TCWC Jakarta and Port Moroesby from Australia's storms, and we also don't exclude their numbers from the overall list of storms in those basins. Rye998 (talk) 15:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the tie as the CPAC is not a basin. Last year we agreed to divide articles by basins, not AOR lines. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 17:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Striking my previous comment...EPac is technically out to the dateline but due to the CPHC, it's split within the basin. Basically, what YE said is correct, it should be included. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:37, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

article

Who wrote the article? Altarboy420 (talk) 22:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

12gorge1 did. Y E ^Tropical ^Cyclone 23:00, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Article

Is an article needed so far for Hurricane Adrian? 99.95.11.224 (talk) 02:09, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probrably not. It hasn't had any effects on land, and it likely won't overall. If it does, by some miracle, turn and hit Mexico, then it would be warranting of one, but we don't need to really argue about making one here. Rye998 (talk) 15:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, due to its high intensity, but stop debating on wheather it should be made. Be bold and write it. Y E ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:10, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

...But keep in mind that the unofficial rule-of-thumb for creating hurricane articles, as stated on this talk page section, is that is should have at least caused warnings or watches to be posted. So don't be surprised if someone AFDs it. TheAustinMan (talk) 22:40, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"At least". And IIRC, MX did issue a TS Watch. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 22:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As long as non-NHC sources can be found, I am ok with it. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 22:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File for Adrian needs renaming?

The title of the file for Hurricane Adrian is "Hurricane Adrian 2011-09-09 1800Z.jpg". The date used in the title implies September 9, 2011, does it not? Kinaro^{(say hello)} ^{(what's been done)} 18:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does. I placed a request for the file to be moved to "Hurricane Adrian 2011-06-09 1800Z.jpg" on its Commons page. Cheers, Little Mountain 5 18:41, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed by DerBorg. Thanks! Little Mountain 5 20:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian

Is it unusual for a category 4 (Adrian) to be the first storm of the season? 99.60.49.225 (talk) 06:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It has happened before. Hurricane Adolph (2001) was a Category 4 hurricane. Hurricane Adolph (1995) was also a Category 4 hurricane. If you think about it in a first storm major hurricane standpoint, (Adrian '11), Alma '02, Adolph '01, Adolph '95, Ekeka '92, Agatha '80, Annette '76 and Ava '73 are the only ones 1971-Present (Satellite era). So if you consider 1 first storm every 5.5 years unusual, then it is. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 06:27, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FORUM. Please take all discussion to Hurricane Wiki. Thank you. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 17:22, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

The main hurricane trace summary picture is not displaying properly but can't figure out how to sort it out without uploading a new picture. It is currently only showing 2 traces but should be 3 (soon to be 4). When you click on the picture it shows a large version of the correct image, 3 traces (http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8651/1231112.png) but on the main article page it only shows 2 (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4294/123111.png)

Yes, that happens to me alot. In fact, at the moment, I can only view what your describing and only part of Hurricane Calvin's track (up to the first dot indicating that it became a hurricane). I am not sure though how to solve that problem; it just ends up not displaying correctly until like two weeks after it is created/editted. That is also one reason why I don't really upload the 5 day track images (which one time resulted in many images that were exactly the same).--12george1 (talk) 02:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a known Wikimedia-wide issue. See Bug 28613. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, actually now it is displaying correctly for me--12george1 (talk) 03:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The same is happening to the track of Hurricane Calvin. I don't understand. When you click the image, it shows the whole track, but in the infobox, it is not the same. --Ryder 06:16, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Again, this is a known Wikimedia-wide issue, and there is nothing that we (meaning anyone who is not a sysadmin) can do about it. See Bug 28613. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 22:05, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

The NHC Google Earth BT has wrongly put Dora as a Category 5 hurricane. This is because of that conversion error thing for storms with an intensity of 135kts. Dora is still 135kt Category 4 hurricane. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 16:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dora's Sandbox

I have a sandbox made for Hurricane Dora. The sandbox is ready for placement as a real Wikipedia page. I based it off of Hurricane Danielle (2010) since they both shared similar characteristics as semi-fish storms (hurricanes that stayed off to sea but still affected land somewhat) and category 4 hurricanes. I would like someone to "approve" this sandbox before I go ahead and "publish" it. TheAustinMan (talk) 22:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It needs some minor fixes to be published, specifically forecaster names and some Spanish sources.Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll do those things when I can. TheAustinMan (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wording needs to be fixed, I wouldn't publish this yet. At least, not until I can go over it and fix the errors that I see. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk)

Neither one of those comments would actually preclude the sandbox from being published; they can always be fixed while the article is in mainspace. Feel free to publish whenever you feel comfortable doing so. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 01:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ill probably copyedit it after it gets published, which is kinda what TA13 said. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 02:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I moved it. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Harvey Crossover

Harvey crossed into the pacific maintaining depression strength. 1 --Anirudh Emani (talk) 12:37, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not until the NHC says so. And in whatever case, it's still in the Atlantic/BOC side of Mexico. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 13:59, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very odd, but it is most likely an error IMO. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 14:40, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian sandbox

Anyone who is interested in completing Adrian's sandbox will be welcomed to do so at here.
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Not sure if warranted? Usually EPAC storms only have articles if they impacted land. But all land-impacting storms warrant articles. CrazyC83 (talk) 23:56, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, not really warranted, IMO. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:04, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian does not /need/ an article, but it /can/ get one if it is high-quality. It /did/ do a couple inches of rain to MX.Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane

Random rainshowers can do three inches of rain to a part of Mexico. Does that deserve an article? Absolutely not. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 04:03, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]