User talk:Geir Smith
Blocked
ok, at this point I am indefinitely banning you from editing English Wikipedia, on grounds of disruptive behaviour, inserting patent nonsense to article space, and consistent off-site canvassing and calls for vandalism, combined with positive slander.[1] Feel free to apply for review of this block. dab (𒁳) 09:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I'd like apply for unblocking of this account. Thanks. Geir Smith (talk) 23:42, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
I have on idea who has started saying I use several accounts. In all events this is not true and may be some malicious slur on someone's part. But I can't say who that would/could be. Geir Smith (talk) 23:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
{unblock | reason=The account User talk:Geir Smith has been blocked for three years. }}
- context: I blocked this account for vandalism (and off-site calls for vandalism). The "sockmaster" tag was added by User:Shirik [2]. This is possibly a misunderstanding, afaik this user has not been accused of sockpuppetry. --dab (𒁳) 13:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
right, now I see what has been going on: there is Geirsmith666 (talk · contribs), an account apparently created to stalk the real Geirsmith, and some admin misunderstood this as Geirsmith himself returning as a sock. If you speak French, you will realize that Geirsmith666 is a troll from France. The real Geirsmith by his own account also lives in France, so we probably have a case of a real-life enemy here. Needless to say, Geirsmith666 was blocked on sight, but this is how the "sockpuppetry" confusion arose. --dab (𒁳) 13:23, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- Not necessarily "real life". I now noted that Geir Smith is active on youtube under his real name, posting videos about how Obama is the antichrist or something. So this account probably attracted trolls from youtube. Not that this matters for our purposes, I suppose, as nothing here is in the remotest sense conductive to writing an encyclopedia. --dab (𒁳) 13:29, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
{unblock | reason=I understand that Wikipedia do checks on people before allowing them to contribute. But I have no intention of resuming contributing as a vandal. Whatever I contributed three years ago has totally changed now and the same environment does not prevail today. I wish to voice opinions about the Birthers etc... I hope Wikipedia isn't censoring this important movement. (I must remind you that Michelle Bachmann and Donald Trump are Birthers and they both have/had double digit polls in persidential bids to their credit). I'm sure that informing about these major events can contribute to the History of Humanity and Wikipedia can't just censor that as not-existent. I understand that you may have opinions, such as liking Obama, but I doubt that that should obscure your judgment in enabling people to speak freely. Thank you.}}Geir Smith (talk) 13:38, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
{unblock | reason=I doubt that blocking someone indefinitely (3 YEARS! and as you explained just now, it was wrongly so.) is Wiki policy, and I remind you that in your block, you encouraged me to contact you for reviewing it. I'm now doing just that. I quote you: Feel free to apply for review of this block. dab (𒁳) 09:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC). It's on this page.}}Geir Smith (talk) 13:51, 21 October 2011 (UTC) Well, I'll just request this here and then contact someone else at Wikipedia, if this can't find any success from here.Geir Smith (talk) 13:59, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Geir Smith (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Mr Bachmann, you wrote that I posted videos on You Tube saying Obama is the Antichrist. This is a choice and a freedom which does not affect or concern you. I hope you see the relation between freedom of speech and allowing someone to contribute to Wikipedia. It is not your business to judge people's opinions. If you don't want to address the issue of freedom, please tell me who to ask for an unblocking of this three-year banned account.I'm sorry if you have such a strong opinion of Obama that it impairs your principles of non-partisan lack of prejudice. I'm a scholarly university researcher so I know only too well, the perils of the mind and of holding to one's opinions in an "opinionated" manner.
Decline reason:
You say, "I wish to voice opinions..."; that's not the purpose of Wikipedia. We don't care what your personal opinions are; Wikipedia is not a place for you to express them. You have no right to "speak freely" here; there are plenty of other places on the Web for you to indulge in such expression. Wikipedia:Free speech explains this. --jpgordon::==( o ) 14:30, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
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Mr. Smith, the block was for vandalism and not for your "opinions". I could not care less what your opinions are. All I said was that the troll "Geirsmith666" had probably been attracted by your youtube activity, which led to confusion about sockpuppetry. Your block, your unblock request, and the above rejection of your request by another admin has nothing to do with any of this. --dab 16:15, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Geir Smith (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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jpgordon, Yes, Thank you for your post. I expressed that mistakenly; my intention is not to "voice opinion", but just to report facts as I find them referenced, in reliable sources. I had experience of Wikipedia's rules and regulations and will follow them carefully and without error. I'm thus requesting an unblocking. Thank you. Geir Smith (talk) 16:31, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I've just spent some time examining your history here. After reviewing your contributions and previous talk page discussions I'm afraid I find it very difficult to believe that you understand and will comply with our editing policies. Part of the problem is that you are being a bit vague. If you could use your next request to specifically detail what led to you being blocked, along with specifically detailing what you would do instead if you were unblocked that would be helpful. If you aren't able to do that then the block will need to remain in place. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
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{{unblock | reason=My account-user page is still indicated as being blocked for sockpuppetry which has been explained above by [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] to be wrongly attributed to me. That's all good but I'm still wondering why this mistake was not righted a long time ago. Given that evidently Wikipedia didn't understand the reasons behind my blocking, I'm happy that's been clearly explained now. As I've just explained in my previous post, I have no intention of disrespecting WIkipedia guidlines or rules in contributing, and of course not in sockpuppetry because I have not done this to begin with. I'm happy this mistaken identity has been cleared up, thanks to your posts above.}}[[User:Geir Smith|Geir Smith]] ([[User talk:Geir Smith#top|talk]]) 22:44, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
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- Since I just declined one I will leave this for another admin, but I will say that you have not offered the specificity I asked for when declining that request. The logged reason for your block is Attacks on editors, creation of attack/extreme POV articles, disruption of AFD process, warned many times. It's the "warned many times" part that makes it hard to take you at your word when you say you completely understand the guidelines, which is why I asked for specifics, only to get more vagaries . Beeblebrox (talk) 16:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Geir Smith (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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Now that being said, I'd like to also speak a moment about the issues with Obama which are obviously politically linked etc... (not that my opinions about Obama should influence contributions.) The attitude which I have presently has been weathered and has gained in experience (and bettering thereby) by the fact that Obama has been through changes, difficulties as a president. Also the Birth Issue which is one of the topics which interest me, has been through the most incredible episodes, up and downs and cliffhanging developments. Why does this affect my calm and reflected attitude and change for the better? Well, the initial shock at Obama's election has changed to more acceptancy and to seeing things far differently.
Of course, my political opinions or like or dislike for Obama play no role, but in 2008, unfortunately, I did think that a rapid - hasty - output of energy in contributing on this topic was important. I don't think there's any haste in doing anything now. Just to peacefully contribute to Wikipedia...
You asked me about the reasons I was blocked earlier. To make this short, I use an article by Lisa Miller in Newsweek, which quotes the sources about a lottery draw in Illinois the day of Obama's victory-celebration. I wanted to speak about this in various articles of Wikipedia but made incorrectly formulated contributions. We then got mad about that, on all sides and it went to a clash.
My problem was that, when being refused at one spot, I thought my way out, was to go try on some other place, which was stupid and an ugly "tactic", admittedly. But as I said, Internet was a new and unknown world to me. That's the real basis of what was the problem. At the time, I think I had had a computer for two years, but had not trained in it's use, at all. Furthermore, the issue of the Lottery draw is no longer a pressing issue.... as I then thought. And Obama himself is no longer a pressing issue, from my point of view. To prove this, I'll say that Obama's present political destiny is of no personal concern or interest to me at all, so things have totally changed. I can assure you of this point.
So presently indeed, the contributions I wish to make to Wikipedia, have nothing to do with any haste, nervousness or anger about any of those issues or any issues.
In short, the Wikipedia administrators do not have to fear, that they'll need to warn me about any Wikipedia guidelines, in the future. That's not my intention at all in wishing to have my account unblocked and to resume contributing. I do understand the rules and guidelines, I have learnt about good behaviour during these three years of using Internet since 2008 and I promise I will abide by the Wikipedia guidelines, so as for there to be no need, for any administrator to have to warn me, in the future. Thanks to all.Notes:
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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]], Thank you for your post. Let me speak a little about myself, if I may. When I posted in 2007-2008, I had no computer experience and as you know, the Internet (websites) was still in it's earlier stages and users were not as professional at things as today (At least this was my case). Since 2008, I've been involved in communicating with users in various forums, discussions etc...This has deeply changed my attitude towards speaking and I've learnt from life and relating to others. I'm not trying to brag or bolster my image, but just saying that starting from practically no experience or exposure to speaking on this medium, I have profoundly learnt and improved. Indeed, I had entered into Wikipedia prematurely, and was contributing, I admit it, in a rather let's say "unprepared way". I readily admit to that. Now that being said, I'd like to also speak a moment about the issues with Obama which are obviously politically linked etc... (not that my opinions about Obama should influence contributions.) The attitude which I have presently has been weathered and has gained in experience (and bettering thereby) by the fact that Obama has been through changes, difficulties as a president. Also the Birth Issue which is one of the topics which interest me, has been through the most incredible episodes, up and downs and cliffhanging developments. Why does this affect my calm and reflected attitude and change for the better? Well, the initial shock at Obama's election has changed to more acceptancy and to seeing things far differently. Of course, my political opinions or like or dislike for Obama play no role, but in 2008, unfortunately, I did think that a rapid - hasty - output of energy in contributing on this topic was important. I don't think there's any haste in doing anything now. Just to peacefully contribute to Wikipedia... You asked me about the reasons I was blocked earlier. To make this short, I use an article by Lisa Miller in Newsweek, which quotes the sources about a lottery draw in Illinois the day of Obama's victory-celebration. I wanted to speak about this in various articles of Wikipedia but made incorrectly formulated contributions. We then got mad about that, on all sides and it went to a clash. My problem was that, when being refused at one spot, I thought my way out, was to go try on some other place, which was stupid and an ugly "tactic", admittedly. But as I said, Internet was a new and unknown world to me. That's the real basis of what was the problem. At the time, I think I had had a computer for two years, but had not trained in it's use, at all. Furthermore, the issue of the Lottery draw is no longer a pressing issue.... as I then thought. And Obama himself is no longer a pressing issue, from my point of view. To prove this, I'll say that Obama's present political destiny is of no personal concern or interest to me at all, so things have totally changed. I can assure you of this point. So presently indeed, the contributions I wish to make to Wikipedia, have nothing to do with any haste, nervousness or anger about any of those issues or any issues. In short, the Wikipedia administrators do not have to fear, that they'll need to warn me about any Wikipedia guidelines, in the future. That's not my intention at all in wishing to have my account unblocked and to resume contributing. I do understand the rules and guidelines, I have learnt about good behaviour during these three years of using Internet since 2008 and I promise I will abide by the Wikipedia guidelines, so as for there to be no need, for any administrator to have to warn me, in the future. Thanks to all. |3 = ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]], Thank you for your post. Let me speak a little about myself, if I may. When I posted in 2007-2008, I had no computer experience and as you know, the Internet (websites) was still in it's earlier stages and users were not as professional at things as today (At least this was my case). Since 2008, I've been involved in communicating with users in various forums, discussions etc...This has deeply changed my attitude towards speaking and I've learnt from life and relating to others. I'm not trying to brag or bolster my image, but just saying that starting from practically no experience or exposure to speaking on this medium, I have profoundly learnt and improved. Indeed, I had entered into Wikipedia prematurely, and was contributing, I admit it, in a rather let's say "unprepared way". I readily admit to that. Now that being said, I'd like to also speak a moment about the issues with Obama which are obviously politically linked etc... (not that my opinions about Obama should influence contributions.) The attitude which I have presently has been weathered and has gained in experience (and bettering thereby) by the fact that Obama has been through changes, difficulties as a president. Also the Birth Issue which is one of the topics which interest me, has been through the most incredible episodes, up and downs and cliffhanging developments. Why does this affect my calm and reflected attitude and change for the better? Well, the initial shock at Obama's election has changed to more acceptancy and to seeing things far differently. Of course, my political opinions or like or dislike for Obama play no role, but in 2008, unfortunately, I did think that a rapid - hasty - output of energy in contributing on this topic was important. I don't think there's any haste in doing anything now. Just to peacefully contribute to Wikipedia... You asked me about the reasons I was blocked earlier. To make this short, I use an article by Lisa Miller in Newsweek, which quotes the sources about a lottery draw in Illinois the day of Obama's victory-celebration. I wanted to speak about this in various articles of Wikipedia but made incorrectly formulated contributions. We then got mad about that, on all sides and it went to a clash. My problem was that, when being refused at one spot, I thought my way out, was to go try on some other place, which was stupid and an ugly "tactic", admittedly. But as I said, Internet was a new and unknown world to me. That's the real basis of what was the problem. At the time, I think I had had a computer for two years, but had not trained in it's use, at all. Furthermore, the issue of the Lottery draw is no longer a pressing issue.... as I then thought. And Obama himself is no longer a pressing issue, from my point of view. To prove this, I'll say that Obama's present political destiny is of no personal concern or interest to me at all, so things have totally changed. I can assure you of this point. So presently indeed, the contributions I wish to make to Wikipedia, have nothing to do with any haste, nervousness or anger about any of those issues or any issues. In short, the Wikipedia administrators do not have to fear, that they'll need to warn me about any Wikipedia guidelines, in the future. That's not my intention at all in wishing to have my account unblocked and to resume contributing. I do understand the rules and guidelines, I have learnt about good behaviour during these three years of using Internet since 2008 and I promise I will abide by the Wikipedia guidelines, so as for there to be no need, for any administrator to have to warn me, in the future. Thanks to all. |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]], Thank you for your post. Let me speak a little about myself, if I may. When I posted in 2007-2008, I had no computer experience and as you know, the Internet (websites) was still in it's earlier stages and users were not as professional at things as today (At least this was my case). Since 2008, I've been involved in communicating with users in various forums, discussions etc...This has deeply changed my attitude towards speaking and I've learnt from life and relating to others. I'm not trying to brag or bolster my image, but just saying that starting from practically no experience or exposure to speaking on this medium, I have profoundly learnt and improved. Indeed, I had entered into Wikipedia prematurely, and was contributing, I admit it, in a rather let's say "unprepared way". I readily admit to that. Now that being said, I'd like to also speak a moment about the issues with Obama which are obviously politically linked etc... (not that my opinions about Obama should influence contributions.) The attitude which I have presently has been weathered and has gained in experience (and bettering thereby) by the fact that Obama has been through changes, difficulties as a president. Also the Birth Issue which is one of the topics which interest me, has been through the most incredible episodes, up and downs and cliffhanging developments. Why does this affect my calm and reflected attitude and change for the better? Well, the initial shock at Obama's election has changed to more acceptancy and to seeing things far differently. Of course, my political opinions or like or dislike for Obama play no role, but in 2008, unfortunately, I did think that a rapid - hasty - output of energy in contributing on this topic was important. I don't think there's any haste in doing anything now. Just to peacefully contribute to Wikipedia... You asked me about the reasons I was blocked earlier. To make this short, I use an article by Lisa Miller in Newsweek, which quotes the sources about a lottery draw in Illinois the day of Obama's victory-celebration. I wanted to speak about this in various articles of Wikipedia but made incorrectly formulated contributions. We then got mad about that, on all sides and it went to a clash. My problem was that, when being refused at one spot, I thought my way out, was to go try on some other place, which was stupid and an ugly "tactic", admittedly. But as I said, Internet was a new and unknown world to me. That's the real basis of what was the problem. At the time, I think I had had a computer for two years, but had not trained in it's use, at all. Furthermore, the issue of the Lottery draw is no longer a pressing issue.... as I then thought. And Obama himself is no longer a pressing issue, from my point of view. To prove this, I'll say that Obama's present political destiny is of no personal concern or interest to me at all, so things have totally changed. I can assure you of this point. So presently indeed, the contributions I wish to make to Wikipedia, have nothing to do with any haste, nervousness or anger about any of those issues or any issues. In short, the Wikipedia administrators do not have to fear, that they'll need to warn me about any Wikipedia guidelines, in the future. That's not my intention at all in wishing to have my account unblocked and to resume contributing. I do understand the rules and guidelines, I have learnt about good behaviour during these three years of using Internet since 2008 and I promise I will abide by the Wikipedia guidelines, so as for there to be no need, for any administrator to have to warn me, in the future. Thanks to all. |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}