Talk:Adolescent sexuality in the United States
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Problems with Media Effects Section
I see this entire article potentially has some problems, but my area of expertise is only in the media effects realm. That having been said I found the media effects section to have significant problems with POV, particularly through the selective referncing of sources which, although reputable (at least in some cases) nonetheless do not represent the full range of either research or scholarly opinion. Further the "tone" of the article tends to declare viewpoints as facts and is alarmist in general. I'm going to begin working on this section gradually over the next few weeks. I certainly welcome input from others.
As a side note I'm tempted to suggest a merger with "adolescent sexuality"...does "adolescent sexuality in the US" warrant separate consideration from adolescent sexuality worldwide? 69.91.76.238 (talk) 04:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)MVGuy
- Thanks for your contributions. Many of your edits were very helpful - particularly chasing down sources and improving the flow and wording of some sections. However, I am of the opinion that you cut too much out when you were trimming, and I think this gets to your question of whether or not American adolescent sexuality deserves its own article. You cut, for example, information about the type and amount of sexuality that American teens are getting in their media diet. As it has an impact on their actions, I restored it. I also brought back the two sections - one on the content and one of the effects, as well as found a missing citation.
- No worries. I'll see if I can find some other useful citations particulary from the other side of the debate to help lend it more balance, perhaps when time allows. Best, 69.91.76.238 (talk) 01:46, 29 February 2012 (UTC)MVGuy
- I toned down some of the language that overstated the "factual" nature of the findings. Also emphasized the Steinberg study a bit more for balance. Probably needs some more cites from the 'other side' otherwise this section still kind of drifts into POV. Avalongod (talk) 05:11, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
References
I tried to improve the References section. I moved all the refs that were in the body out of the text and into the References section. If there was just a link, I tried to follow it so I could add some more information. There is plenty more work to do here, however.--Illuminato (talk) 17:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Also, I just checked the page again, and found several errors. It claims that the citations are not used in the prior text, but I spot checked a couple and they are all there. Anyone know what is going on? --Illuminato (talk) 17:58, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Never mind. I think I fixed it. --Illuminato (talk) 18:07, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Merge
Sexual behavior of American adolescents was recently recreated, it seems to be largely a copy of the first section of this article. It should be merged back in here and deleted again. (There was an appearent POV fork that created that article some while back). Zodon (talk) 07:37, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- I agree Avalongod (talk) 12:54, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- A summary of the first section of this article was once in place, per Wikipedia:Summary style, but Avalongod removed the summary and replaced it with the original text. This article is much too long, and needs to be pared down. --Illuminato (talk) 16:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Did I? I've generally only touched the media section, which I've now pared down considerably. I think this is referring to a different section of the page, isn't it? I think the "sexual behavior of American adolescents" is a much older page (looks like you created it in 2008). I think you may be mixing up with the media stuff? Or perhaps I'm the one who's confused! Avalongod (talk) 17:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Merging to here doesn't have to mean that all of what is in the Sexual behavior of American adolescents article is going to merged into this article. Since everything that is in the Sexual behavior of American adolescents article is also in this article, a merge simply means a redirect. And I agree with redirecting Sexual behavior of American adolescents here; it's not tackling anything different and I fail to see why it was created in the first place. 23.20.130.229 (talk) 21:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. And by the same token although I agree the current page needs to be pared down a lot and clarified, that doesn't mean creating a bunch of daughter pages. I think the current page simply needs to be pared down. Avalongod (talk) 00:42, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Merging to here doesn't have to mean that all of what is in the Sexual behavior of American adolescents article is going to merged into this article. Since everything that is in the Sexual behavior of American adolescents article is also in this article, a merge simply means a redirect. And I agree with redirecting Sexual behavior of American adolescents here; it's not tackling anything different and I fail to see why it was created in the first place. 23.20.130.229 (talk) 21:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Did I? I've generally only touched the media section, which I've now pared down considerably. I think this is referring to a different section of the page, isn't it? I think the "sexual behavior of American adolescents" is a much older page (looks like you created it in 2008). I think you may be mixing up with the media stuff? Or perhaps I'm the one who's confused! Avalongod (talk) 17:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
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