Talk:Diet in Sikhism
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Extremely one-sided article
This article is extremely one-sided and does not reflect the complexities of the "meat debate". There are multiple passages that advocate against meat in addition to the passages advocating that it is ok to eat meat. The blinding omission is too big to let slip. "Sikh Scholars" do not represent all - or even a fraction of the plethora of information on the Sikh community. Why not develop a fuller, more thoughtful article that gathers viewpoints from all sources as well as ALL parts of Baani. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.231.198 (talk) 09:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- Please do not add unreferenced edits unless it contains ISBN numbers and is WP:RELIABLE Thanks SH 19:41, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I referenced the Guru Granth Sahib - the main source for information on SIKH positions. IS there an ISBN number for the Guru Granth Sahib?
I just put in quotations from Guru Granth Sahib and even gave references on the internet and for some reason they have been deleted. Why is that? this article is biased and its not truthfull in the slightest. Quotations in the Guru Granth Sahib that say meat should be neglected by a Sikh is stated below: [1] [2] Shabad page 723: O human being, whatever you can see with your eyes, shall perish. The world eats dead carcasses, living by neglect and greed. ((Pause)) Like a goblin, or a beast, they kill and eat the forbidden carcasses of meat. So control your urges, or else you will be seized by the Lord, and thrown into the tortures of hell.
Shabad page 139: Telling lies, they eat dead bodies. And yet, they go out to teach others. They are deceived, and they deceive their companions. O Nanak, such are the leaders of men. ॥1॥
Shabad page 141: To take what rightfully belongs to another, would be like a Muslim eating pork, or a Hindu eating beef. Our Guru, our Spiritual Guide, stands by us, if we do not eat those carcasses. By mere talk, people do not earn passage to Heaven. Salvation comes only from the practice of Truth. By adding spices to forbidden foods, they are not made acceptable. O Nanak, from false talk, only falsehood is obtained. ॥2॥
Can someone put that on the page, these are just a few from MANYYYY quotations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.102.102.248 (talk) 18:42, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- There are several reason.
- WP:NPOV issues
- WP:Verifiable
- WP:OR
On a side note I would add Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so we tend not to tolerate WP:Fringe here and pay more weight to academic research.Thanks SH 18:47, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Define academic research for me? im looking at some of the quotations that have been written on the current page about meat being edible, and they too, like my own quotes have been referenced from a link showing Guru Granth Sahib ji lines. So i ask what makes my source so different is that is the issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.102.102.248 (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- This is not the place to WP:LAWYER. I suggest a discussion forum for that. This site is for academia and encyclopeadic articles and not WP:OR or WP:Fringe. Please respect the rules. ThanksSH 19:04, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Define academic research for me? im looking at some of the quotations that have been written on the current page about meat being edible, and they too, like my own quotes have been referenced from a link showing Guru Granth Sahib ji lines. So i ask what makes my source so different is that is the issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.102.102.248 (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)