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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Sjhnumber1 (talk | contribs) at 08:15, 9 June 2012 (→‎Minor Barnstar awarded: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Bulleted list items

As part of this edit, you replaced * Bulleted list item with *Bulleted list item. That is to say, you deleted a load of spaces. There is no point in doing this as long as the built-in Wikipedia editor includes such spaces. To see it doing this, edit something by hitting "Edit", and then hit the bulleted (unordered) list button. (If you wish to respond, please do so here.) HairyWombat 22:24, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see which part of the diff you are referring to - can you give the text of a bulleted list item where AWB adjusted the space between the asterisk and the following text?
I only see the edit removing the redundant spaces from the end of the lines, and in five cases adjusting the spacing before or after the "ref" tags. These are part of AWB's "minor general fixes". It wouldn't be worth saving an edit to make only those changes, but since I was saving an edit anyway to fix some typos, I ticked the box to allow the software to make the general fixes at the same time. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is all I see. Please ignore my ramblings; I didn't look closely enough. HairyWombat 14:06, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! -- John of Reading (talk) 20:27, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox Edits

Hi John,

I sent this question to Michael Lynch a few days ago, and he suggested that I contact you (he is on a Wikipedia break at this time).

Full disclosure: I work as a consultant for Brailsford & Dunlavey, a company based in Washington, DC. Recently I've noticed a lot of firms we work with and compete against are listed throughout Wikipedia for facility projects they have designed, managed, etc. They are listed in Infoboxes on facility pages like this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bank_of_Kentucky_Center

My question is, Is it possible to add a new header like "Programmer" or "Planner" to the Infobox on this and other pages? B&D is not an architect or an engineer or a contractor. B&D is a project manager (which we have tagged on a few projects). But most of the time, B&D is a planner/programmer, conducting feasibility studies and financial analyses and crafting architectural programs (room-by-room descriptions of how the space should be designed), which then are handed off to the implementation team. There are hundreds/thousands of planners/programmers that shape brick-and-mortar projects, but which currently do not seem to be "taggable" in Infoboxes.

Let me know if such a tag already exists. And if it doesn't, would the Wikipedia community find it useful enough to merit adding?

Sincerely,

B.J. Rudell

Hi John, sorry not to put in a new Subject for my message directly above. Thanks in advance for your insights/suggestions.

Sincerely,

-BJ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjrudell (talk • contribs) 12:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the heading, and will give you a proper reply tomorrow. Sundays are busy! -- John of Reading (talk) 16:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(More) First some unrelated comments.
  • Thank you for disclosing your role, both here and at the help desk. It would also be appropriate to make the disclosure on your "user page", User:Bjrudell. That's currently a red link because the page hasn't been created yet. You can access that page by clicking on your user name at the very top of every page whenever you are logged in.
  • The edits you've made so far, adding B&D as the project manager, have added links to the B&D home page. That makes it harder for readers to check that the information is true, because they have to work out how to use your web site to navigate to the relevant project. With a Google search I found this B&D sub-page specifically about the Ryan Center; that would be a better link to include in the Ryan Center article.
  • The edits you've made so far have added "Bare URLs", so that the Wikipedia article displays only the URL down in the "references" section. These are ugly, especially when the URL is long. I recommend that you use the {{cite web}} template to format the reference nicely. Compare this reference[1] with this one.[2]
That second reference is keyed as follows: <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.programmanagers.com/ht/d/ContentDetails/i/10169/pid/328|title=University of Rhode Island|publisher=Brailsford & Dunlavey|accessdate=2012-05-21}}</ref>.
That's the technical stuff, but none of that helps you with your real question. You were advised at the help desk to begin a discussion on the talk page of the {{Infobox stadium}} template, and I agree with that. A discussion there will be seen by the editors most interested in this topic area. Go to Template talk:Infobox stadium and click the "New section" button at the top.
Personally I'd prefer not to see this role added. The template already provides for several main roles, and I am sure there are hundreds more companies who played a part in the construction of these facilities and would love to see their company mentioned in the Wikipedia articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possible bug in empty plant "talk" pages

Hi.

As you know, I recently wanted to explain on the talk page of "Centaurea Montana" why I had made an edit, but was unable to find a way to do so, so I went to Plant Portal (where the talk page directed me) and explained there. You were kind enough to copy the explanation to the C. Montana talk page, and now I see an "edit" link there.

The problem was, that when I origanally went to try and put the explanation on the talk page, there was nothing there except the Plant Portal box. There was no "edit" link, and no other obvious way to add my explanation.

THere IS, as I say, NOW an "edit" link on C. Montana's talk page.

However, if you go to the talk page for the similar flower Centaurea triumfettii, ("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Centaurea_triumfettii"), as a regular user, you will see no way to edit - no way to add the first comment.

If there IS a way to do so, and I am just not seeing it, please tell me, so that I won't make this mistake in the future.

However, if I am right, and there is no way to add the first comment (at least on one of these Plant-portal-related sites), then I would say there is a bug.

You apparently don't have the problem I had (as you were able to add my explanation to the page), but you seem to be an editor, or Super-User, or something, so you may not be aware of the bug (if it is one).

I just thought you might want to know, in case something needed to be fixed.

UPDATE: Just for fun, I tried clicking on the "edit" button at the top of the C. triumfettii talk page, and it started up an edit of the talk page. Surprise!!! Since I only saw one "edit" button up there, I assumed that button was for editing the Article, not the current page. To me, this is non-obvious. Perhaps the Edit button text could vary based on location, so that if one were on the article, it would say "Edit Article", and when on a talk page it would say "Edit Talk", or some such... Sorry to be such a dum-dum (if such I be)...

-scott092707 Scott092707 (talk) 20:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not obvious is it? The Read/Edit/New section/View history tabs apply to the article page if you are looking at the article or its history, and to the talk page if you are looking at the talk page or it's history. (I'm not any kind of super-user, by the way, though I admit I've made a lot of edits) -- John of Reading (talk) 07:33, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually

The "careful wording" was actually referring to counting ABC 2000 as part of the number of years Dick Clark had hosted things on a certain day of the year. ViperSnake151  Talk  15:13, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's one more done then. 1400 to go... -- John of Reading (talk) 16:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Handley-Read

Not sure what you mean by "needs a check with the book". I have the book in front of me now, as I did when I wrote the article, and it is an accurate quote, properly cited. Can you let me know what else you think is required. KJP1 (talk) 20:57, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If the book really misspells the word "brilliance" as "brillance", then replace {{sic|?|brillance}} with {{sic|brillance}}, which displays as brillance [sic]. Readers will then be assured that the mistake is in the original, and is not Wikipedia's error. Or does the context in the book show that the author meant to use the French spelling? -- John of Reading (talk) 05:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah! I now see what you mean. My apologies and thanks. Shall now go and change it. KJP1 (talk) 06:13, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More on wrapping

I don't want to belabor this on the help desk, partly because when it od pointed out what I did wrong, I will be mortified, but I just added an image and a little text to 1983 NCAA Women's Division I Basketball Tournament in the Bids by state section. I am sure I am using "none" not "one" but if I remove the {{clear}}, it will wrap. Do you see what I'm doing wrong?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:41, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You've included both "left" and "none", whereas the example in the tutorial only has "none". At Wikipedia:Extended image syntax these are listed in a section with four options: left/right/center/none. By experiment, if you include more than one of these options then only the first has any effect.
I'm sure the developers thought this made sense at the time... -- John of Reading (talk) 05:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Barnstar awarded

The Minor Barnstar
Thank you John for fixing the infobox image syntax on Nat Gonella and Jack Hylton, and showing me how to do it! Essential minor edits. Sjhnumber1 (talk) 08:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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