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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 99.73.137.73 (talk) at 07:32, 6 August 2012. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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August 2012

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See also WP:COI in case it might apply. --Ronz (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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It looks as if you object to links I provided from a food publication I read. Dining Chicago is a Chicago-based TV show, magazine and website that covers food and dining. Its principal writer, Leah Zeldes, is a respected journalist who also writes for other media, such as the Chicago Sun-Times. I follow her work, and thought it provided useful information and citations. So I added some. How is that advertising or a conflict of interest? 99.73.137.73 (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Chinook salmon. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Epipelagic (talk) 00:06, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Not at all clear why my citation in Chinook salmon was "inappropriate" or "spam." I don't care enough to argue about it, but I'm curious as to why you'd think a citation from a factual article by a respected food journalist in a would be inappropriate. It's not linking to anybody selling salmon or by anyone with a vested interest, so I don't see how it's spam, either. I'm interested in food and I follow this writer. I thought Wikipedia wanted citations. 99.73.137.73 (talk) 05:05, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are right that Wikipedia wants citations, but you need to be clear on what are appropriate citations. A citation should be a reliable source. The citation you provided (twice) on the Chinook salmon article was from a bog, and does not qualify as a reliable source. You certainly cannot claim your citation didn't involve spam, since it was clearly promoting certain interests. You say you "don't care enough" (to argue about it). If you don't care then please don't waste my time. If you do care (for Wikipedia), then please read the links in the welcome I have added above, and persist with your contributions. There is a learning curve that can be disconcerting to begin with! --Epipelagic (talk) 05:36, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's not somebody's personal or self-published blog. It's a media blog. A whole lot of publications put online articles in blog format because Wordpress is an easy thing to use. I see "blog" pieces from other publications cited in all kinds of other Wiki articles. Not trying to waste your time, but I don't get it.
Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources says: "Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both."
My citation appears to fit: It's from a respected food writer who is a credentialed member of the site's editorial staff. A quick Google shows the author writes for the Chicago Sun-Times and other media as well as Dining Chicago, and was an editor of Lerner Newspapers. Dining Chicago is a professionally published magazine that also has a has a TV show and a website, and they've been around for years. Did you check it out or do you just object to their web format? I'm a regular reader of the site, and I thought it had information that was relevant.
I don't understand how it's spam, and I'm trying not to resent being labeled a spammer, but really, "promoting certain interests"? Whose -- the magazine's? The writer's? Then how do you cite something without "promoting" it? I spent a bunch of time looking up the correct format for citations and put in the information that the form called for. 99.73.137.73 (talk) 07:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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